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| So brave. Wheelchair bound man shot by officer. (Page 4/5) |
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sourmash
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DEC 07, 07:48 PM
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You would've searched yourself if you weren't just interested in an argument by challenging me about a topic which you agree that you don't know about.
Using the term insolent isn't an insult.
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Rickady88GT
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DEC 07, 08:19 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
You would've searched yourself if you weren't just interested in an argument by challenging me about a topic which you agree that you don't know about.
Using the term insolent isn't an insult. |
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Mash, slow down. There are topics here that people learn from including me. But to say I am insolent because I didn't search for a video is by design an insult on your part. I wouldn't have searched for it, that is true and I thank you for posting it. When I have a little time I will watch it. I am not interested in arguing, you take it there. Not being aware of something you claim, and not having the time to research it isn't the definition of insolent.
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ray b
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DEC 07, 08:29 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
Kill "like this" ? I thought you said this was a bad shoot? If it was in fact a bad shoot he should not even get a second chance.
It's time to wait for more facts. Including answers to him following or braking any laws or policies.
I don't believe this scenario is "common". The most basic job interviews check for felonies and personnel records for behavior problems, qualifications and disqualifications such as legal action taken against them and disciplinary action. |
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my position is they are very seldom tried much less convicted even worst case bad shoots
and if like this cop was fired is the end of the legal process
most appeal esp here in s fla with police unions a real local power base
with a very good chance of back pay and rehired
if not the next city county state wants exp people with out training expense
so in an effort have some deterrence to random excess shootings
perfect no but something to weed out a bit
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Rickady88GT
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DEC 07, 08:30 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
You're just too insolent to consider that someone knows more about something than you. Hope your ego isn't too damaged by me posting the search you should have.
Of course you'll do the normal disregard and insult routine instead of acknowledging that if there are millions of hits on the topic then it isn't so novel at all. |
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Typical of you to post like this. Pure ignorance on your part. Not an insult, just fact. I have no interest in how people view my"ego", because I don't even care about such a thing. I am just me, take it or leave it, I literally do not care. It is clear that I am not participating in a popularity contest, oh well.
I haven't seen the video so I am not going to comment on it or insult it. But I will say people watch "bigfoot" videos and music videos that I have no interest in and have no factual value within them, by the millions too. So just that alone isn't saying all that much about the video.
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Rickady88GT
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DEC 07, 08:42 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
my position is they are very seldom tried much less convicted even worst case bad shoots
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Ray, believe it or not, I understand the frustration in bad Police work. I understand the anger in injustices and miscarriages of just. Let's leave the generalities aside and speak to actual cases. Can you list examples of what you are saying. That way we can discuss the facts.
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and if like this cop was fired is the end of the legal process
most appeal esp here in s fla with police unions a real local power base
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Yes they can appeal, that is a right we all have. Police do not give up that right. If you appeal a judgment that you feel was wrong doing, then you would also be exercising your rights as well. That appeal process isn't the problem.
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with a very good chance of back pay and rehired
if not the next city county state wants exp people with out training expense
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Only if it is determined that a wrongful termination has happened. "Bad Police" just don't get hired for being fired. That is true for other departments. The prospective employer isn't looking to get caught up in law suits. What you are saying, just doesn't make sense,...BUT I am willing to look at cases you post here.
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so in an effort have some deterrence to random excess shootings
perfect no but something to weed out a bit |
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How would you like to be fired wrongfully and no recourse? Small business doesn't have much recourse available to them, but if an appeal process is available I would not stop someone from using it.
Some bad eggs do exist, just like some good people get mistreated. They both happen and a case by case process is the only fair way.[This message has been edited by Rickady88GT (edited 12-07-2021).]
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sourmash
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DEC 07, 09:12 PM
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You're pretty well ate up with yourself. There is nothing interesting in your discussion. Grunts and bluster is typical boredom.
Video? You really have an online ego with attitude. There's no video. You're too insolent to even do a search so I did one. Everyone else looked at it and saw the hits. It's a thing and doesnt matter if you recognize it as one or not.
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Rickady88GT
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DEC 07, 09:36 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
You're pretty well ate up with yourself. There is nothing interesting in your discussion. Grunts and bluster is typical boredom.
Video? You really have an online ego with attitude. There's no video. You're too insolent to even do a search so I did one. Everyone else looked at it and saw the hits. It's a thing and doesnt matter if you recognize it as one or not. |
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You are correct about one thing, it doesn't matter.
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sourmash
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DEC 08, 09:01 AM
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Wrong again. I said YOU, don't matter to the topic, obviously.
The following is not a statement to you.
There are millions of hits in any search. This is a well known issue to people who aren't insolent, stubborn, obstanant about a topic and will investigate: Israeli training is known to induce a level of brutality in the force asserted in order to gain immediate defeat as well as compliance. The method isn't about discipline or peace keeping. It's about force and compliance.
When an entity looks into police brutality or overuse of force, it's at the core of police tactics discussed when looking for the why and what of an incident. Is American diversity similar to the animus in the diversity in Israel? Not at all. Yet.
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ray b
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DEC 08, 11:25 AM
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OK SO THIS CASE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE
the cop shot the wheelchair guy 8 times in the back
the police fired the guy for that
no charges were or will be filed [or he would not be asking to be rehired]
the case is now at the point he is asking to be rehired
that is EXACTLY what I want to prevent with a kill one YOU ARE DONE BEING A COP rule
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Rickady88GT
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DEC 09, 07:27 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by ray b:
OK SO THIS CASE IS A GOOD EXAMPLE
the cop shot the wheelchair guy 8 times in the back
the police fired the guy for that
no charges were or will be filed [or he would not be asking to be rehired]
the case is now at the point he is asking to be rehired
that is EXACTLY what I want to prevent with a kill one YOU ARE DONE BEING A COP rule |
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Do you have all of the facts?
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