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Lambo nut SEP 29, 12:46 AM

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Originally posted by Rickady88GT:


At this point it is the "experts" who are spreading the misinformation.



That's the problem. There are no experts in any of this mess. Lots of info out there but a lot of it that makes no sense.
rinselberg SEP 29, 05:11 AM

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We obtained two studies from the CDC. Both looked at vaccinated and unvaccinated infections from COVID-19. Both studies found that the level of virus in vaccinated and unvaccinated people appears to be similar.

However, that doesn’t [completely] explain contagiousness [or lead to the conclusion that unvaccinated people are not more of a Covid contagion threat than vaccinated people.]

“Vaccinated people and unvaccinated people have comparable levels of virus in their throats so they can both spread,” Dr. Schaffner said. “One of the good things about being vaccinated is this duration of shedding of the virus is shorter if you're vaccinated.”

This means that people who are vaccinated spread the virus for a shorter period.

There are still months of information to be studied on the virus. However, according to our experts because of the shortness of a vaccinated person’s ability to spread the virus, vaccinated people are less contagious overall.

The studies on contagiousness are all relatively fresh. There are more on the way. The CDC has several new studies researchers are working on to find out if the levels of virus carried by vaccinated and unvaccinated people are truly equal.



"VERIFY: Are vaccinated and unvaccinated people who catch COVID-19 equally contagious?"

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Early studies show both groups have similar levels of the virus. But, vaccinated are not contagious for as long.


Matt Gregory for Washington DC-based CBS affiliate WUSA9; September 8, 2021.
https://www.wusa9.com/artic...bd-aa57-9ea8a23cb205

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gtjoe SEP 29, 07:23 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Matt Gregory for Washington DC-based CBS affiliate WUSA9; September 8, 2021.
https://www.wusa9.com/artic...bd-aa57-9ea8a23cb205




You do realize that in the article you cite they have 2 studies cited that both seem to indicate that the viral load between vaxxed and unvaxxed are comparable. Neither of these studies address the issue of how long either are spreading. they rely on a statement from one person, to make that claim, but do not provide any actual evidence that that is true.
I have yet to see a study that shows that, but it seems that anecdotally there are a lot of places where its spreading easily through populations that are highly vaccinated.

sourmash SEP 29, 08:12 AM
That's the problem here, which tells you this is all garbage. People spreading prepared disinformation hoping others buy it.

Chants at sports events with 10s of thousands shouting "F### JOE BIDEN" are accelerating.
82-T/A [At Work] SEP 29, 09:44 AM
I think everything that's going on right now is fantastic... because any time the Democrats get control, they get absolutely drunk with power. The overwhelming vast majority of people who are not vaccinated right now are blacks and Hispanics, and they are quickly souring on Biden. This mandate that's being pushed on them is NOT improving Biden's polling, at all... and as a matter of fact, will continue to have significant repercussions for him. I'm not pro-failure just so it hurts the Democrats... but in this case, it's all so self-inflicted. Democrats never go about this the right way... ever. There are so many better ways to encourage vaccination... but Democrats always think coercion and force is how you get things done. They fail at understanding what made this country what it was... that force and coercion is literally what caused us to rebel against the British empire.

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sourmash SEP 29, 11:02 AM
Republicans won't fix anything.
2.5 SEP 29, 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

Republicans won't fix anything.



I think we know corruption is not limited to one party. What is your full point?
sourmash SEP 29, 12:05 PM
Last thing they did when they had power was create a multi-trillion dollar failed war project.
They created the Pateiot Act.
They created the TSA, federalizing airport workers.
They started the open border crap.

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2.5 SEP 29, 12:22 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

Last thing they did when they had power was create a multi-trillion dollar failed war project.
They created the Pateiot Act.
They created the TSA, federalizing airport workers.
They started the open border crap.




Yes, this is known. Choosing the lesser evil has always been the game, and not easy, many times a gamble.
sourmash SEP 29, 01:40 PM
There is much lesser evil to choose from.