Georgia voting law? (Page 4/4)
LitebulbwithaFiero APR 09, 07:55 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:


Not legally at a licensed business in current times, you didn't. A thumb print is also a means of ID.

If you wanna vote, get an ID. Make IDs easier to get, so voting is harder to cheat.



Laat check I cashed (2) was in March.
And before that (2) in January. No ID.

Last alcohol was February, no ID

Like I said, I am all for ID required for voting. I am also all for free state ID.


And what's this about a thunb print? The gas station is going to take my thumb print to see if I am 21?

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sourmash APR 09, 08:06 AM
You didn't legally do those things. Read more carefully. That is if you have the typical MUST ID laws.

There will always be vote fraud. All you can do is limit it as best that can be done without limiting participation. Felons aren't allowed to vote but do have IDs and probably have voted.

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fierofool APR 09, 08:23 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

You didn't legally do those things. Read more carefully. That is if you have the typical MUST ID laws.

There will always be vote fraud. All you can do is limit it as best that can be done without limiting participation. Felons aren't allowed to vote but do have IDs and probably have voted.




True. One of my brothers has a pretty good list of felonies and he votes at every election when he's not in jail. He only has a state-issued ID. No driver's license (felony violations).
LitebulbwithaFiero APR 09, 08:30 AM
I did it all legally so I am not sure where my reading issue is.

And at any rate, the original point was you can do all those things without ID.

So there is the possibility of American citizens that are eligible to vote not having an ID.

Which still does not excuse the need for voter ID. Which makes this whole discussion pointless.

Cliff notes;
- voter ID being neccessary for a clean election

-if the issue is that it is seen as a burden on the citizens eligible to vote, ease the burden by making it easier to get the ID, but not to get a false ID.
TheDigitalAlchemist APR 09, 08:49 AM
There's something fishy about this situation, and the focus (and money) being spent. Sports pulled out of it, probably a lot of movie and TV show production...
Companies spent a lot of $ putting out ads regarding this.

The political stuff used to be more subtle... now we see it, but the way these things fit together isn't so clear...

Well, ok MONEY... like Billions of it....guess that can be a motive or whatever...
sourmash APR 09, 09:30 AM

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Originally posted by LitebulbwithaFiero:

I did it all legally so I am not sure where my reading issue is.

And at any rate, the original point was you can do all those things without ID.

So there is the possibility of American citizens that are eligible to vote not having an ID.

Which still does not excuse the need for voter ID. Which makes this whole discussion pointless.

Cliff notes;
- voter ID being neccessary for a clean election

-if the issue is that it is seen as a burden on the citizens eligible to vote, ease the burden by making it easier to get the ID, but not to get a false ID.



I know you think you're making a valid point but you really aren't. You're arguing both sides and trying to use a minor exception as though it's the norm. Get passed your obstinacy and admit that your state requires proof you're over 21 to buy alcohol at a licensed establishment. There will always be exceptions.

You also don't live in Georgia which requires proof of age to buy alcohol, tobacco andf firearms.

My state has MUST ID laws, but last alcohol I bought I wasn't asked for it. I was only asked if I wanted it in a bag. Never been in that shop before either so it wasnt from past knowledge of my age.

A new GA law is only as good as those abiding by it. Which is why there are checks.
LitebulbwithaFiero APR 09, 09:49 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:


admit that your state requires proof you're over 21 to buy alcohol at a licensed establishment.

You also don't live in Georgia which requires proof of age to buy alcohol, tobacco andf firearms.

My state has MUST ID laws, but last alcohol I bought I wasn't asked for it. I was only asked if I wanted it in a bag. Never been in that shop before either so it wasnt from past knowledge of my age.

A new GA law is only as good as those abiding by it. Which is why there are checks.




My state does require you are 21 years of age or older to purchase or consume alcohol. I cannot find where it says you have to legally prove that your are. At any rate the burden is on the seller.

But as you point out above and back to my very simple point that I was making- you can get alcohol without an ID.

sourmash APR 09, 10:06 AM
The exception is not the rule even though you pretend it is. There will always be people seeing the glass half empty.

I've lived in states requiring State ID to vote. Are there cheaters who will allow people through? Probably, but not in.mass But nobody is advertising they accomplished voting without ID.

You have to have ID in GA to rent to own, to pawn things, to catch a fish on public waters as an adult.
maryjane APR 09, 11:25 AM
Tho I haven't bought booze in a long time, I'm pretty sure in my own state, it is illegal to sell it to anyone without asking for valid ID and illegal to buy it without presenting a valid ID. The burden is placed on both sides of the counter.


I've cashed lots of checks (personal and payroll) at both my banks and at local merchants without having to present a photo or other ID.
(I rarely use paper checks now tho)

IF, one uses a debit card to get cash from an ATM or cash back at a business, is almost the same as cashing a check and the only id required is whatever info is in the chip or mag stripe of the card and the associated pin #.