Someone got the 2nd RNA shot. (Page 4/9)
blackrams APR 05, 02:23 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:
Did you?



Surely, you jest. There are many things in life I might about but, this is not one of them.

Rams

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cliffw APR 06, 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by cliffw:
The vibe I have been getting all long is that they never have been sure of details.




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Originally posted by maryjane:
Nor were they sure of 'the details' right before the vaccinations took place that all but eradicated polio from the US.. just as no one was 100% 'sure' of any vaccination that the world has been using for many decades.



True that, but ...


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Originally said by Dr Farce-e
You do not need to wear a mask.




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Originally said by Dr Farce-e
You need to wear a mask.




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Originally said by Dr Farce-e
Two masks are needed




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Originally said by Dr Farce-e
You need two masks.




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Originally said by the CDC
Six foot of isolation.




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Originally said by the CDC
Three foot is good enough.





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Originally said by the politicians
Lock down for two weeks, to bend the curve.




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Originally said by the politicians
Lock down till we say so.




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Originally said by Dr Farce-e
We need to take the vaccine




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Originally said by Dr Farce-e
You still need to wear a mask




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Originally said by Dr Farce-e
We are not sure if the vaccine keeps you from spreading the disease.





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Originally said by the CDC
The young are not as affected from Kung Flu and can not spread it




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Originally said by the CDC
We need to keep schools closed



Damn Don, they can't even tell you what kind of a mask is an approved mask. Where is the damn common sense ? Me, having worked around poison gasses, know to stand or run upwind of a threat. They messaged the whole panic-demic threat as "protect everybody else". Ok, that's fair but everyone knows that many many people do not give a zhit bout anyone but themselves.

Then there is the discussion of if a mask protects ones self, or just others. No "official" opinion on that.
sourmash APR 06, 08:30 AM
Sheep can sheep if they want. The sheep who obviously are ignoring the science that Farce-e is a fraud just need to go to the light.

I don't wear a mask for my protection nor anyone else's. I wear it to move about. If you need me to wear a mask for your protection, you should not leave your home, sheep.
Hudini APR 14, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by 2.5:


You can infect other people even when after you are vaccinated, they have said this.

Did they figure out how long folks with the vaccine are protected yet? Or if it helps against the variants? Last I read they werent sure of details.



I just watched a doctor from the CDC say once you are vaccinated you cannot infect other people.
blackrams APR 14, 10:11 PM

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Originally posted by Hudini:


I just watched a doctor from the CDC say once you are vaccinated you cannot infect other people.



My COVID Doc told me less than a 5% chance of catching and/or being a carrier/transmitter. That number has also been stated by my family doc and my heart doc. Either they are all lying or, they believe it's true.

Regardless, I have now had my second COVID-19 positive house guest within the last two months. Yes, those guests were sick and I couldn't ask them to leave. That wouldn't have been right. We did the best we could to follow CDC guidelines and all survived. Those docs must be on to something.

Rams

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2.5 APR 15, 10:48 AM
Looks like the Johnson and Johnson shot is on hold.

"On April 13, 2021, CDC and FDA recommended a pause in the use of Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine. Of the nearly 7 million doses administered so far in the United States, a small number of cases of a rare and severe type of blood clot have been reported in people after receiving the J&J/Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine. All reports occurred among women between the ages of 18 and 48, and symptoms occurred six to 13 days after vaccination.

If you got this vaccine within the last three weeks, your risk of developing a blood clot is also very low. However, you should be on the lookout for possible symptoms of a blood clot:
Severe headache
Blurred vision
Fainting
Seizures
Pain in your abdomen (chest or stomach)
Leg pain or swelling
Shortness of breath"

-cdc.gov
2.5 APR 15, 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by Hudini:

I just watched a doctor from the CDC say once you are vaccinated you cannot infect other people.



I guess business as usual, information and misinformation mixed in a fun pot, with a side of politics, we get to choose what we want to believe.

Id love to ask the doctor you saw how it works, and how it woked a short while ago. I mean,you can have it in your mouth, breathe it out...you can have it on your hands, spread it around. If that can't spread it I'm not sure how it works.

Plus the other variants.

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maryjane APR 15, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by blackrams:


My COVID Doc told me less than a 5% chance of catching and/or being a carrier/transmitter. That number has also been stated by my family doc and my heart doc. Either they are all lying or, they believe it's true.

Regardless, I have now had my second COVID-19 positive house guest within the last two months. Yes, those guests were sick and I couldn't ask them to leave. That wouldn't have been right. We did the best we could to follow CDC guidelines and all survived. Those docs must be on to something.

Rams




That sounds about right, relative to the # of Americans with antibodies and the current infection rates.
It is based however, on a number of 'ifs'.
If the current level of reasonable distancing, mask wearing, and vaccination rates remains the same or increases.
If, one lives in a rural vs metropolitan setting. (NYC for instance, back in Dec 202, had a 20.3% positive antibody test rate, while people in rural regions had a much smaller poitive test rate).
If, a variant doesn't emerge that the public has zero protection against.

With the exception of whoever was patient zero, everyone that gets it, gets it from some one else, either from direct person-to-person contact or person-to-surface-to person transmission.

We are still a good ways from 'herd immunity' and we may not even reach it, depending on how many opt out of vaccinations and depending on variants that might emerge that vaccine doesn't work on at all.
Hudini APR 17, 03:44 AM

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Originally posted by 2.5:


I guess business as usual, information and misinformation mixed in a fun pot, with a side of politics, we get to choose what we want to believe.

Id love to ask the doctor you saw how it works, and how it woked a short while ago. I mean,you can have it in your mouth, breathe it out...you can have it on your hands, spread it around. If that can't spread it I'm not sure how it works.

Plus the other variants.




Having it ON you versus being an active spreader is two different animals. People wearing the hazmat suit could have it ON them and transmit it to another surface where you pick it up. That’s why the whole mask debate matters. If you have the virus suspended on the outside of your mask and then proceed to remove the mask incorrectly, you can very easily get the virus on your hands and then into your system with a simple eye rub. That’s why nurses and doctors are taught how to remove and dispose of their mask properly.

The odds of a vaccinated person spreading the virus via contact is no higher than a non-vaccinated person. It’s all about viral load if you are unlucky enough to be exposed and susceptible.

And the current vaccine has proven to be effective against the variants.
cliffw APR 17, 08:58 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:
With the exception of whoever was patient zero, everyone that gets it, gets it from some one else, either from direct person-to-person contact or person-to-surface-to person transmission.




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Originally posted by maryjane:
Nor were they sure of 'the details' right before the vaccinations took place that all but eradicated polio from the US.. just as no one was 100% 'sure' of any vaccination that the world has been using for many decades.



Are you sure of the details ?

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said Monday there is no significant risk of catching the coronavirus from a surface or object.

Speaking of being unsure wrong, or lying, the World Health Organization said Kung Flu is not capable of being transmitted person to person..