Is the LEFT to be in power in 2021, almost in power? (Page 4/5)
maryjane JAN 01, 02:58 PM
I'm still waiting for that proof.
Better hurry.
I don't have many years left before the lizard head shadow creatures come for me.
sourmash JAN 01, 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:
I'm still waiting for that proof.



The sworn proof of legal affidavits aren't proof. Right. Gotcha. And I fully understood who you are in total the first time. Mitch is a wonderful mascot.
The affidavits and accompanied video testimonies of observers don't qualify in your approved governmental system, because pretending.


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Better hurry.
I don't have many years left before the lizard head shadow creatures come for me.



You say it like it's a bad thing. Lol.
It's not my job to make you view, accept or seek. It's my duty to observe those who refuse to view, accept and seek when offered the proof they said didn't exist. You'll have to prove all those signed, sworn docs are individual pieces of perjury for you to be right. You've said some curious things in the past, but...
Jonesy JAN 02, 08:34 AM
I would say some are, but most aren't.. It's no different with Republicans, some are sliding further and further right, some aren't..

A minority on the left have become radicalized, mainly from what i'v seen, are young not well educated people with little life experience.

Then you have the right, where a minority are very much moving to a authoritarian type world view.

Question is, are the moderates from both sides able and willing to step up too squash the radicals in their party. We'll have to wait and see as time goes on.

Radicals breed radicals. Humans in general tend to get more and more stupid as they group together, and the larger the groups get, the dumber its members become.

Hopefully our more moderate and logical members of society will prevent the radicals from either side from gaining any real power and doing real damage.

We'll see.

I do find it interesting you only focus on the left when it comes to radicalization. Do you have zero criticisms of the right? As i rarely if ever see any on this forum, or is your opinion the right as a whole doing a "good job".. I mean, the "right" in general has held the most power in our government for a very long time now, and here we are! Lots of bad things going on.. Sure the first instinct is to just blame the left for all your ill's, but the left has been a minority power in our country for a very long time. Sure no doubt the left has made lots of mistakes and caused problems, but as the old saying goes, "the buck stops at the top", and the right has been "on top" for a long time now.

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sourmash JAN 02, 09:43 AM
If I could butt in, the radicals are a majority at Berkeley University and educators are committing violence there. One smashing people's heads with a U shaped bike lock--Eric something who appears to have gotten a slap on the wrist.
They were prominent at Charlottesville and again committing violence, and even admitting to pointing an AR-15 right at the Fields kid as he drove past, which is partially credited for why he didn't slow at the crowd ahead, which was bashing his car with bats.
Educators at major universities are leading the campaigns to tear down US history and to replace symbols because they're symbols of Whiteness.
Maxine Waters instructs people to go after right wingers and chase them out of where ever you see them in the streets. Rand Paul has been targeted twice now. And Kamala Harris supported the radicals saying they won't stop and shouldn't stop.

That's just a blush of the leftist educated portion.

The Right is more centrist than they are right, because the uneducated leftists will throw violent fits and arson in the streets. The left is more leftist and radical leftist.
the Right listens to the left. The left won't hear anything from the right even when the right agrees to give something up.
The right is called radical for wanting to preserve something. They aren't very right-wing at all. They've given so much ground to the left that they're centrist.

Kamala is right, they aren't going to stop but they also aren't going to build anything positive. It's about getting something for nothing.

I personally slam the right constantly. They're a bunch of weak, pansy, left leaning pieces of bought-off sell-outs who are busy doing what Jon Stewart said they were doing the last time Bibi Netanyahu spoke to the Congress.

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maryjane JAN 02, 09:55 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:


You say it like it's a bad thing. Lol.
It's not my job to make you view, accept or seek. It's my duty to observe those who refuse to view, accept and seek when offered the proof they said didn't exist. You'll have to prove all those signed, sworn docs are individual pieces of perjury for you to be right. You've said some curious things in the past, but...



You haven't presented any sworn docs. All you've done is said they exist, and a sworn affidavit only means the person signing it believes or wants others to believe it's content is true. There are tons of documents in govt archive, signed and sworn, that have been proven to be nothing but rubbish.
The document itself is never proof of anything.
Jonesy JAN 02, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

If I could butt in, the radicals are a majority at Berkeley University and educators are committing violence there. One smashing people's heads with a U shaped bike lock--Eric something who appears to have gotten a slap on the wrist.
They were prominent at Charlottesville and again committing violence, and even admitting to pointing an AR-15 right at the Fields kid as he drove past, which is partially credited for why he didn't slow at the crowd ahead, which was bashing his car with bats.
Educators at major universities are leading the campaigns to tear down US history and to replace symbols because they're symbols of Whiteness.
Maxine Waters instructs people to go after right wingers and chase them out of where ever you see them in the streets. Rand Paul has been targeted twice now. And Kamala Harris supported the radicals saying they won't stop and shouldn't stop.

That's just a blush of the leftist educated portion.



That's what i was referring too about the radical left mostly being "not well educated". And a major part of it is the radical professors that have taken over many universities.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you about the Republicans being mostly "centrist". Trump and his administration was NOT centrist, they were borderline authoritarian. There are centrist republicans for sure, but they weren't part of the current administration, and have been very quiet the past 4 years, most likely due to fear of Trump blasting them on twitter if they went against him, fearing they will lose their position. There has been violence and intimidation from people on the right as well.. You can pretend there isn't if you wish, but its not reality. Living in Alabama which is a state that is about as "far right" as you can get, there has been instances of that here. And if i have to see any more neck beards wearing ski masks, with giant trump flags on their jacked up trucks wearing full tac gear carrying their AR's with them every were i think ill puke. And i fully support the 2nd amendment. Hell we just had an attack here at a walmart were two guys (with Trump flags on their trucks) were berating some random guy walking too his car for wearing a mask, when he flipped them off, they both ganged up and beat him down. It comes from both sides..

Which is why i never pick "sides" or "parties". I support good ideas, and good ideas are a rare thing from either side these days.

Glad to hear you criticize the right as well, as its a rarity around here..

I personally think both parties are garbage, filled with garbage people who's only interest is themselves and what they can gain from their positions.

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Jonesy JAN 02, 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

So you have a conspiracy theory that all the sworn affidavits of election fraud and even the testimonies don't exist. Very curious, but predictable. A few the affidavits were released to the press as an example so they'd stop programming people like you with the term "baseless claims" and "without evidence".

There is no bottom for you, IOws. There is no amount of criminality and foreign intervention from dual citizens and the donor class to which you will stand up to resist to protect yourself and family. Ok.
You've taken your leftist programming well, sir.




You'll have to explain to me why Trumps lawyers didn't present all this evidence in court? If they have all this evidence, why not use it in court? They haven't even argued election fraud in court. They say that's what they are doing when on TV, but that's not what they are doing in court.. Which is why all there cases are being thrown out, they present nothing. Very strange legal tactic.. Which is why i believe its just all a political theater show by a President who's days in office are about to run out.

sourmash JAN 02, 10:40 AM
I really haven't followed it since the assembly of affidavits and since the MI Republicans signed affidavits that they were threatened with violence it they didn't certify. So what they're allowed to do with them, I don't know. But there are state assemblies asking to nullify or decertify the counts. They've also sent alternate electors, some states having two sets.


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Originally posted by Jonesy:


That's what i was referring too about the radical left mostly being "not well educated". And a major part of it is the radical professors that have taken over many universities.

I'm gonna have to disagree with you about the Republicans being mostly "centrist". Trump and his administration was NOT centrist, they were borderline authoritarian. There are centrist republicans for sure, but they weren't part of the current administration, and have been very quiet the past 4 years, most likely due to fear of Trump blasting them on twitter if they went against him, fearing they will lose their position. There has been violence and intimidation from people on the right as well.. You can pretend there isn't if you wish, but its not reality. Living in Alabama which is a state that is about as "far right" as you can get, there has been instances of that here. And if i have to see any more neck beards wearing ski masks, with giant trump flags on their jacked up trucks wearing full tac gear carrying their AR's with them every were i think ill puke. And i fully support the 2nd amendment. Hell we just had an attack here at a walmart were two guys (with Trump flags on their trucks) were berating some random guy walking too his car for wearing a mask, when he flipped them off, they both ganged up and beat him down. It comes from both sides..

Which is why i never pick "sides" or "parties". I support good ideas, and good ideas are a rare thing from either side these days.

Glad to hear you criticize the right as well, as its a rarity around here..

I personally think both parties are garbage, filled with garbage people who's only interest is themselves and what they can gain from their positions.




In DC, they are both garbage. DC is why we're at such a low point today.

I never see the right rioting, beating anyone. Maybe berating someone in a mutual shouting match on the street, yes. But not committing arson, randomly punching people on NYC hotel/business videos. I DO see the rght with ARs and agree that it's stupid looking. But seeing all the violence will prompt a reaction.

The right isn't even allowed to assemble without being assaulted by the extreme left. When they achieved it in DC the numbers were so great the left was held back until they could single out stragglers, like when they murdered the kid in Oregon or Washington in a Trump march.
2.5 JAN 05, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by Jonesy:

Which is why i never pick "sides" or "parties". I support good ideas, and good ideas are a rare thing from either side these days.




Good new ideas are rare.

I believe the Constitution and Bill of rights were and are an excellent idea, the LEFT does not.
Jonesy JAN 05, 02:13 PM

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Originally posted by 2.5:


Good new ideas are rare.

I believe the Constitution and Bill of rights were and are an excellent idea, the LEFT does not.



Neither does the current RIGHT. Trump is doing everything he can to get around the constitution in order to overturn an election he clearly lost.. His new "perfect phone call" clearly shows that. He cares nothing for the law, or the constitution, they are just obstacles in his way from getting what he wants. And it appears his supporters, both in government and not, are just fine with that.

That's Authoritarian, not Democratic. I cannot support such things, and if you believe in the Constitution as you claim, then neither should you.