re: Jussie Smollett (Page 4/22)
Rageaholic FEB 18, 02:14 PM

Jake_Dragon FEB 18, 02:59 PM
Its hard to tell what is real and what is not. He ****ed up that is known but how bad is it I will wait and see.

Right now I'm reading that he was possibly on the phone with his attackers and that is why the phone records were redacted.
But who the **** is so stupid they use a phone registered to them to talk about this?
Please you can get a burner and pay for minutes with a cash card from the corner store.
Have they lost so much brain matter that they were this stupid?

So I will wait until more facts are known before I have my final say but for now shame on all of them for this.
And how the **** is this not a hate crime against white people?
williegoat FEB 18, 03:10 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

And how the **** is this not a hate crime against white people?


Because "white privilege" is a myth, a smoke screen. The privilege belongs to the left, but it is for sale. The price? Your soul.
Khw FEB 18, 04:06 PM
I don't usually follow this kind of story because of the BS spin put on it. That said, my wife was watching Agenda Free TV on Youtube when the host, Steve, was reporting on this. The show honestly is kind of a s**t show but for some random reporting where viewer comments and topic donations are considered, it's mildly entertaining. He was reporting on this a few weeks back and when I heard what was being "reported" I told my wife that it just sounded to perfect, It left me with a opinion that the whole attack was contrived. As the story developed and the reporting she watches from Steve continued you could just see each step develop leaving you with a feeling of "wtf, how can anyone believe this was a real attack?"

Edit: Now reports are coming up that the attack was planned by Jussie when the threatening letter he got doesn't gain enough attention. After all this with the likely faked attack on Jussie, do you think people are going to believe now that you didn't either send that letter to yourself or have someone else do it?

https://www.breitbart.com/e...et-enough-attention/

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cliffw FEB 19, 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
What can we fairly expect from news media? Did CNN not accurately report the Chicago police chief's statements about this case, as of February 1, 2019..?
Whobody knows?




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Originally posted by cliffw:
randye, this time I actually believe they accurately reported, as did other news outlets including Fox, what was fed to them. What the press did not do was investigative reporting. Including Fox.



rinselberg, my quote was two days after the original post, one day after the counterfeit news network story. cnn's story, and the rest of the ?news? outlets, was reporting. Incomplete reporting. Your effort to raise cnn's prestige failed.

The impact of the original allegation raised much the stink from the Dumbs, enough that so many blamed your President of being in collusion with the crime. Cue MAGA hats. One would think that they would have sent reporters to question Smollett. Of course, a video interview would have made all the 'splash'. Smollett I am sure would have been excited to repeat his lies. What did they do ? Send reporters to interview the Dumbs who were quick to condemn the alleged attack and place blame on your President and white men (the alleged perpetrators were allegedly white). Which was a good thing, ! It allowed us to see how dumb the Dumbs are, and display their 'critical thinking abilities'. . Now we get to see their efforts to wipe eggs of their faces, ! Now they are "reserving judgement", , after prejudging, .

Speaking of cnn, as expected, all of it's news commentators ate the story up, believing the attack as true. Yet you still use then as a source of 'truth'.

As I mentioned, I had questions which had suggested the allegation was "fake".


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Originally posted by cliffw:
Fact : He was still wearing it when sometime later, when the police showed up at his apartment.
Did he walk all the rest of the way home wearing that noose ? Would you ?



Why didn't he take it off in the safe environment of his apartment ?
rinselberg FEB 19, 07:40 AM
Whobody knows?

cliffw knows.
Tony Kania FEB 19, 11:48 AM
Rinselberg, red or black? Headed with a hard earned twenty to the casino today. Red or black? You choose. I will do the opposite.
cliffw FEB 19, 06:16 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
Whobody knows?

cliffw knows.



Do you really believe that ?
Let me let you in an another 'truth'.


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Originally posted by rinselberg:
What can we fairly expect from news media?



Heck, this deserves it's own thread.
rinselberg FEB 19, 08:07 PM
OK. I have not given myself a close review of how CNN reported this story, from Day One to where it stands, today.

When certain politicians--Kamala Harris and Corey Booker, for example--get carried away with the early reporting on a case like this, and start using it as a stage prop for themselves on social media or in front of microphones, talking about it as if it were an attempted "lynching" and talking about a "need" for new, anti-lynching legislation--I don't think you can blame CNN or the other news media for how those politicians get carried away with it.

My impression is that CNN, in their more basic or straightforward news reports, told their viewers (and readers) that Jussie Smollett brought this story about being attacked to the Chicago PD, and that, based on actual statements to CNN reporters from authorized spokespersons for Chicago PD, the Smollett allegations were being taken seriously and were under active PD investigation.

Then, layered on top of that, are the "pundits." The CNN TV anchors (or columnists) that are of the News AND Opinion kind. So these pundits and the guests on their TV segments are talking about the case in a hypothetical way, as if the Jussie Smollett story of being attacked and victimized by some "MAGA" types (Trump supporters) had already been confirmed by the PD investigation, and therefore the implications for how "Carter Nimrod and Natalie--shorthand for C-N-N viewers" should think about this are "bla-bla-bla." "Jussie Smollett was victimized by President Trump, his rhetoric and his supporters." "Institutional racism." "Traditional anti-homosexual lawlessness, still not curbed because of too much indifference at all levels of government." In other words, What Have You.

But I don't think you can rationally want to just take a sledgehammer to all the pundits and columnists. I think it's fair to say that there could have been more skepticism about the case, on the part of the pundits and columnists, instead of seeing many of them get so far out in front of their skis by talking about the Smollett allegations without reminding the viewers (enough times) that the case was still under investigation.

The flip side of that is that the pundits and columnists will--considering the picture that now seems to be emerging from the Chicago PD investigation--now have an opportunity to go after Jussie Smollett and put his culpability under the national spotlight. I think that is already happening.

I follow MSNBC more closely than CNN (television), and NBC News online, more closely than CNN online.

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WBailey1041 FEB 20, 01:39 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

OK. I have not given myself a close review of how CNN reported this story, from Day One to where it stands, today.

When certain politicians--Kamala Harris and Corey Booker, for example--get carried away with the early reporting on a case like this, and start using it as a stage prop for themselves on social media or in front of microphones, talking about it as if it were an attempted "lynching" and talking about a "need" for new, anti-lynching legislation--I don't think you can blame CNN or the other news media for how those politicians get carried away with it.

My impression is that CNN, in their more basic or straightforward news reports, told their viewers (and readers) that Jussie Smollett brought this story about being attacked to the Chicago PD, and that, based on actual statements to CNN reporters from authorized spokespersons for Chicago PD, the Smollett allegations were being taken seriously and were under active PD investigation.

Then, layered on top of that, are the "pundits." The CNN TV anchors (or columnists) that are of the News AND Opinion kind. So these pundits and the guests on their TV segments are talking about the case in a hypothetical way, as if the Jussie Smollett story of being attacked and victimized by some "MAGA" types (Trump supporters) had already been confirmed by the PD investigation, and therefore the implications for how "Carter Nimrod and Natalie--shorthand for C-N-N viewers" should think about this are "bla-bla-bla." "Jussie Smollett was victimized by President Trump, his rhetoric and his supporters." "Institutional racism." "Traditional anti-homosexual lawlessness, still not curbed because of too much indifference at all levels of government." In other words, What Have You.

But I don't think you can rationally want to just take a sledgehammer to all the pundits and columnists. I think it's fair to say that there could have been more skepticism about the case, on the part of the pundits and columnists, instead of seeing many of them get so far out in front of their skis by talking about the Smollett allegations without reminding the viewers (enough times) that the case was still under investigation.

The flip side of that is that the pundits and columnists will--considering the picture that now seems to be emerging from the Chicago PD investigation--now have an opportunity to go after Jussie Smollett and put his culpability under the national spotlight. I think that is already happening.

I follow MSNBC more closely than CNN (television), and NBC News online, more closely than CNN online.




Muddy the waters all you like. The fact remains this clown committed a crime with the intention of smearing Trump supporters and it looks bad on liberals. You come to the thread and see everyone having a jolly time patting ourselves on the back because we called it from the jump. We’re all very happy that we didn’t follow the trail laid for us by all the other sheep led by the mainstream media. You proceed to pick a-part someone’s narrative regarding the timeline. And then followed up with what I would call nonsense.

Let it go. I know you won’t. I’m sure you’ll give me 900 paragraphs of everything but admitting that this coward filed a false police report and has earned a trip to see a judge. But don’t sweat it big R, I don’t come around here much anymore because the likes of you.