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Rickady88GT
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OCT 21, 10:22 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by jaskispyder:
Bush created a breeding ground for ISIS. You feel safe under the patriot act? How about stripping down to fly? Yeah, thanks to Bush, we are so much safer.... 
The recession started under Bush... Who else would we blame? Oh yeah... The guy that came in after.... Lame.
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You act like I am a fan of Bush? He is just another Pres. to me.
obama on the other hand is much worse than ANY other Pres.
The "recession" was mostly caused by the housing bubble. The housing bubble was caused by Democrat's policies. So Bush is not solely responsible for it. AND after obama is out of office the weak "recovery" is still obama's falt. He dragged it out and dug a deeper hole for us.
BTW, Bush did not "create a breeding ground" for isis. jehadists have been around for 1400 years. jehadists have hated the West for Creating Israel. But I guess that is Bush's falter too [This message has been edited by Rickady88GT (edited 10-21-2015).]
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OCT 22, 08:50 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by yellowstone:
I can tell you as a relatively recent arrival (2008) to the US that I was and still am amazed with what non-chalance Americans regard debt. Hardly anyone we know here doesn't have a huge mortgage, a car payment, credit card debt etc.
I couldn't sleep at night with debt like that. It's a whole different mindset to what I'm used to and what I was taught growing up. Cultural differences, I guess... |
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They were trained that by the media and told they deserve it. Then they were not counter trained by parents. I grew up here and am probably just as shocked.
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maryjane
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OCT 22, 10:20 AM
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I'm not shocked at all. It had become very commonplace to covet things others had, even if it meant going deep into debt to immediately have things others had saved their entire lives for. For many, that still holds true today.
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OCT 22, 10:25 AM
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Yeah shocked may not be the right word, disappointed maybe.
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E.Furgal
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OCT 22, 06:33 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by yellowstone:
I can tell you as a relatively recent arrival (2008) to the US that I was and still am amazed with what non-chalance Americans regard debt. Hardly anyone we know here doesn't have a huge mortgage, a car payment, credit card debt etc.
I couldn't sleep at night with debt like that. It's a whole different mindset to what I'm used to and what I was taught growing up. Cultural differences, I guess... |
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I could upgrade to a house 3 times as nice with all the wonderful extras nice big garage shop ect.. as the banks and loan companies all say I can afford it.. even when I bought my house they said I could buy a 450k home, I stuck to my thinking of, a tad over 100k was nice enough.. and glad I did, as those that took the bait of, you can afford this, and bought a home at the top of that range, are now wishing they didn't.
Would I have liked to have paid cash for it, sure but 23% down was all I could muster before buying.. I still have a mortgage, but it is about 2/3rds of what most are renting an apartment for, that used to have a much nicer home than I.. they pay 1600-1800.oo for an apartment, I pay under a grand for my house.. if I followed my realitors advise and bought up to my loan approval limit, I'd be renting also..
you have to balance wants, with what you really really need..
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E.Furgal
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OCT 22, 06:39 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by jaskispyder:
Bush created a breeding ground for ISIS. You feel safe under the patriot act? How about stripping down to fly? Yeah, thanks to Bush, we are so much safer....
The recession started under Bush... Who else would we blame? Oh yeah... The guy that came in after.... Lame.
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| quote | Originally posted by jaskispyder:
Bush created a breeding ground for ISIS. You feel safe under the patriot act? How about stripping down to fly? Yeah, thanks to Bush, we are so much safer....
The recession started under Bush... Who else would we blame? Oh yeah... The guy that came in after.... Lame.
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ya cause Clintons trade act and the dems community housing rebuild (whatever they called it) act that forced banks into loaning to people that shouldn't be getting approved, had zero to do with it,
funny bush warned congress to do something 3 or 4 times but the liberal controlled congress would have non of it..
ya blame bush you tool.
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E.Furgal
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OCT 22, 06:54 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
I'm not shocked at all. It had become very commonplace to covet things others had, even if it meant going deep into debt to immediately have things others had saved their entire lives for. For many, that still holds true today.
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ya sure, oh, sure,
how about all out greed..
baby boomers bought house in 70 for 22k, and have no quams about taking a 350k check for it now..
many reasons people are in debt.. generational greed is a big one..
many buy and do it with a loan.. many it's based on a need, others just a want,, better question is, should stuff cost so much that you have no choice but to take out a loan to buy it..
can't have it both ways, if you are the type that claims we needed to control auto emissions and safety. it comes at a high cost.. if you have no quams of taking a 22k home and as a group bringing the next group of buyers to their knees wanting 350k for it. then this is what happens.. if you looked the other way as your stocks earned bank outsourcing so your retirement account could get bigger, and then comment on people going into debt, to buy things because they can't get a good paying job, cause they are gone, then you might be a huge part of the reason..
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avengador1
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OCT 06, 04:08 PM
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I blame Joe Biden and Kamala Harris for this now. 
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IMSA GT
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OCT 06, 04:10 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by avengador1:
I blame Joe Biden and Kamala Harris for this now. |
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Where the hell have you been? I haven't seen you on here for a LONG time. Glad you're back.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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OCT 08, 02:43 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by avengador1:
I blame Joe Biden and Kamala Harris for this now. |
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Wow! Lots of old names in this post!
There's a new sub-forum for this stuff, it's the Politics & Religion Section: https://www.fiero.nl/cgi-bi...number=12&LastLogin=
All the old favorites are in there...
Do you still have your Fiero? Been a long time!!!
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