The narrative that the Capitol protest was a “deadly insurrection” is falling apart (Page 38/110)
randye JUL 25, 12:07 AM


As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Insurrection or sedition or even homicide as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Advocating overthrow of Government (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Threatening government officials of the United States (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today only 535 individuals], (<1.7 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 35 individuals, (6.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 3 individuals, (0.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".

As of today only 20 individuals, (3.7 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 20 individuals, (<0.06 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 12 individuals, (<0.04 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Proud Boys" group have been charged with a crime.
Rickady88GT JUL 25, 12:11 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Some small (single digit) number of defendants have already pled guilty to charges that include the words "conspiracy" and "obstruction of Congress."

Maybe we're really not that far apart about this.

Words can create a "fog" of their own.




Rinselberg, the Congress conspire against each other for a living. Congress also make a living of obstructing each other.
Big deal. Those words mean nothing to me.
randye JUL 25, 12:47 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

.....in the New York Times.




UH HUH....Sure


For over 4 YEARS the New York Slimes repeated TRUMP-RUSSIA-COLLUSION on a daily basis.

It was FALSE

Your "legendary lawman", Mueller, and well over $30 MILLION of our taxpayer money told us it was false.

For over 2.5 YEARS the New York Slimes blared out RUSSIAN BOUNTIES ON U.S. TROOPS...They shouted "INTELLIGENCE SOURCES CONFIRM" over and over.

On April 15, 2021 the Biden administration finally publically admitted there was no evidence that Russia ever offered bounties on American troops in Afghanistan,

The New York Slimes LIED

The New York Slimes squealed TRUMP QUID PRO QUO daily for almost a year.

That also proved to be FALSE

The New York Slimes screamed that OFFICER BRIAN SICKNICK KILLED by violent Trump rioters

They repeated that same LIE over 20 TIMES IN ONE MONTH

None of the reports ever named a source for the claim, or even identified the law enforcement body from which it originated.

YOU REPEATED THAT SAME LIE in this thread.

The Washington, DC medical examiner revealed that Capitol Police Officer Brian Sicknick HAD NOT BEEN MURDERED during the Jan. 6 Capitol Hill riot.


Neither the New York Slimes or YOU retracted that LIE afterwards.


YOU went on to provably LIE about quotes in the media, not just once but, THREE TIMES in this thread

Now you keep hooting and squealing about a propaganda video that the New York Slimes had made by a gaggle of Leftist propagandists.


NEITHER THE NEW YORK SLIMES OR YOU HAVE ANY CREDIBILITY HERE

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Lambo nut JUL 25, 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Hell, I've been to a few parties that resulted in more injuries than that.

We should investigate Jose Cuervo for conspiracy to commit insurrection.



LMAO!
randye JUL 25, 06:52 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Metropolitan DC police officer Nick Fanone--now former Metropolitan DC police officer Nick Fanone--




His name is MICHAEL Fanone, NOT "Nick", so I don't believe that YOU know as much about him as you pretend to.




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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Do you find this accounting of what happened to him on Jan. 6 believable?




NO


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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Do you think he is lying, or exaggerating?




YES

Any rational person with normal, critical thinking skills that has actually read his pathetic Open Letter to Congress realizes what a DRAMA QUEEN he is as well as someone who is SEEKING A DISABILITY PENSION

It also isn't difficult for any rational person to see that he is a LEFTIST ATTENTION WHORE trying to PLAY VICTIM far beyond the reality of what happened.

He spent less than a full day under hospital observation and required ZERO treatment for any injuries.

Since then he has been on every Leftist media outlet multiple times.



He, along with his morbidly obese buddy and a Leftist media camera crew, have been chasing Republican Congress members through the halls and harassing them.



He even dragged along Brian Sicknick's grieving mother and Sicknick's girlfriend even though the LIE that Sicknick was murdered by rioters has been completely debunked.

He has used EVERY opportunity he can, through every LEFTIST media he can, to slander Former President Trump, Republican Congress members and many others.



Here is "Lefty Mikey" upset because his DEMAND that a Congressman "DENOUNCE" other Republicans wasn't followed.



Here is the woman that made a public display of tearing up a copy of Former President Trump's STOU Address using her official government office and her comrade "Lefty Mikey" to attack a Republican Congress member about COURTESY... (you can't make this stuff up)



HUNDREDS of other police officers went home that day, put a band aid on their "boo-boo" and reported for duty the next day.

None of them have been a DRAMA QUEEN like Lefty Mikey whining about a supposed psychological "injury", demanding medals , attention whoring all over Leftist propaganda media OR stalking and harassing Congress members.

They just quietly and honorably went on with their duty.


So, NO, as with all LEFTIST LIARS like you and Lefty Mikey I don't believe anything that comes out of your mouths or keyboards.

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Rickady88GT JUL 25, 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Metropolitan DC police officer Nick Fanone--now former Metropolitan DC police officer Nick Fanone--was assaulted by some of the rioters, and part of what happened to him was being tasered by rioters multiple times and then being diagnosed (afterwards, I guess) as having suffered a mild heart attack. Obviously, the multiple taser impacts or the other ways in which he was assaulted couldn't possibly have had anything to do with his being diagnosed as having suffered a heart attack.

He suffered some neurological damage--not too severe, apparently, but tangible--and is still recovering from that, or maybe just has to live with it for the rest of his life.

Do you find this accounting of what happened to him on Jan. 6 believable? That's what he has been saying about what happened to him on Jan. 6. Do you think he is lying, or exaggerating?

I don't "get" why you are talking about tens of thousands of people having been tortured and worse, since the 9-11 attacks. Tens of thousands of people around the world? Tens of thousands of people in parts of the world where Islamic extremism has been taking a large toll? Tens of thousands of people right here in the United States?

It's hard for me to believe that you haven't seen any video (or even just photographs) of the violence that took place on Jan. 6 outside and inside the Capitol Building, where rioters were violently assaulting the police with the palms of their hands (pushing and shoving), their fists, their shoe or boot-clad feet and improvised weapons (including metal flag poles) to get past the police and into the Capitol Building, and once inside the Capitol Building, to penetrate deeper into the Capitol Building's working spaces where the Vice President, the Senators and Congressmen and women and their staff persons and aides were located.

If that's what you dismissively categorize as "trespassing", then I go back to my earlier figure of speech. I guess you probably would call what happened to Hiroshima an "atmospheric disturbance."

I don't think you're making any sense.




AGAIN your source is debunked as lies.
Fanone is a disgrace to the profession and a mooch on the tax payers.
Maybe you shouldn't mention him, unless you want people to disbelieve you and NOT respect you.

Words are just words, prove it in court.
"Ex-officer"? Not suspicious at all. Move on people, nothing to see here.

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rinselberg JUL 25, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by Rickady88GT:

AGAIN your source is debunked as lies.
Fanone is a disgrace to the profession and a mooch on the tax payers.
Maybe you shouldn't mention him, unless you want people to disbelieve you and NOT respect you.

Words are just words, prove it in court.
"Ex-officer"? Not suspicious at all. Move on people, nothing to see here.


Even if this Nick Fanone has been exaggerating the extent of his injuries and/or his account of what happened to him--doesn't change the way this Jan. 6 thing looks to me at the big picture level.

I await further clarification from the U.S. Department of Justice, in the shape of more defendants, more indictments, more guilty pleas, more cooperating witnesses and more courtroom trials and judgements. Whatever comes to my eyes and ears from USDOJ. The Fat Lady May Not Be Singing on this Jan. 6 thing until sometime in 2023. The mills of justice grind slowly.

Anything of substance from the new House Select Committee with Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger and the other players--that would be like "gravy."

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Rickady88GT JUL 25, 10:26 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Even if this Nick Fanone has been exaggerating the extent of his injuries and/or his account of what happened to him--doesn't change the way this Jan. 6 thing looks to me at the big picture level.

I await further clarification from the U.S. Department of Justice, in the shape of more defendants, more indictments, more guilty pleas, more cooperating witnesses and more courtroom trials and judgements. Whatever comes to my eyes and ears from USDOJ. The Fat Lady May Not Be Singing on this Jan. 6 thing until sometime in 2023. The mills of justice grind slowly.

Anything of substance from the new House Select Committee with Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger and the other players--that would be like "gravy."




Rinselberg, this is nothing more than political hack, hate and bigotry.
First, there is no reason for this case to last till the next Presidential election unless it is AND IT IS politically motivated..
Second, the standard for an Officer of the Law is honesty. So to say you don't care about honesty as long as they say what you want to hear is bigoted and dishonest on your part.
Third, the pelosi investigation is bigoted and corrupt.
randye JUL 26, 12:31 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:


Whatever comes to my eyes and ears from USDOJ. The Fat Lady May Not Be Singing on this Jan. 6 thing until sometime in 2023.





YEAH, YEAH, YEAH

BABBLE, BABBLE, BABBLE



You spew that crap as though none of us here don't already know how

perpetually and completely



you always are about....well.....about EVERYTHING

You had the same LEFTIST, wet dream predictions, about the TRUMP RUSSIA COLUSSION nonsense that you quacked endlessly about....

.... and almost every other NOTHING BURGER that you have hooted about since then.

Statistics and just dumb luck says that you should be correct at least some of the time....BUT YOU NEVER ARE


ALWAYS WRONG AS WRONG CAN BE

You're a regular NOSTRADUMBASS when it comes to your prognostications.

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randye JUL 26, 12:32 AM


As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Insurrection or sedition or even homicide as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Advocating overthrow of Government (18 U.S. Code § 2385) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today, NOBODY has been charged with Threatening government officials of the United States (under 18 U.S.C. § 871 or 18 U.S. Code § 351 or 18 U.S. Code § 115 or any local statute) as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021

As of today only 535 individuals], (<1.7 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with a crime.

As of today only 35 individuals, (<0.10 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 35 individuals, (6.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have been charged with "conspiracy".

As of today only 3 individuals, (0.5 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to "conspiracy".

As of today only 20 individuals, (3.7 %) out of the 535 people arrested as a result of the MOSTLY PEACEFUL events of January 6, 2021 have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 20 individuals, (<0.06 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC have pled guilty to any charges

As of today only 17 individuals, (<0.05 %) out of the >30,000 people attending the MOSTLY PEACEFUL January 6, 2021 rally in DC alleged to be members of the "Oath Keepers" group have been charged with a crime.