So, Windows 11, Let's talk (Page 3/3)
Patrick OCT 19, 09:58 PM

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Originally posted by 1987RedFiero:

For people like me, that don't have a clue. How does one turn off automatic updates in w10 ?



Turning off the updates gets you nowhere. Extend the updates instead (for free). Good for at least another year. Plenty of YouTube videos explain how to do it.

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82-T/A [At Work] OCT 20, 08:03 AM
I'm losing interest in Windows pretty quickly. The first Windows I used was 3.0, and I remember almost every upgrade since then was pretty exciting... 3.1 introduced sound and multimedia, 3.11 introduced networking, Windows 95 was a whole new thing, 98 SE, 2000, XP, Vista, even 8 was cool in it's own way.

But with Windows 10 and 11... I've been feeling pretty "blah" about Windows. It could be me... just no longer excited by things like this, but honestly... Microsoft has done nothing to get me engaged. I actually feel a little bit like I'm losing my computer the newer versions I upgrade to. I honestly don't even know what version of Windows I even have anymore, and I know I installed it... let me check...

Windows 11 Pro... that's what I have. I can't even tell the difference between my other machines that are Windows 10. If there was a better option, and not going full Linux distro like Ubuntu or something, I'd probably switch right now.
Raydar OCT 20, 10:19 AM
...typing this on a Core2 Quad, running Windows 7.

WTH are y'all talking about?




But all kidding aside, I just installed an "out of the box" version of Windows 10 on a different computer, like two months ago.
Its ads are annoying enough. No way I'm "upgrading" to 11, even though 10 is "EOL". There are ways. YouTube is covered up with workarounds.
I did desktop support for lots of years. I'm not afraid to go in and tweak a registry, in order to cripple Microsloth. I relish the very idea.

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TheDigitalAlchemist OCT 21, 02:48 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

I'm losing interest in Windows pretty quickly.



I wonder when people stopped caring about the OS, their desktop wallpaper and sound themes and such... - probably when many computers became "The Internet Machine".

Plenty are still used for other things, audio/video editing, CAD, document creation, etc...


All I've been doing the past few months is windows updates and upgrades to 11.

Most exciting moment was when I wrote a florpy little batch file to mount and free up space on the SRP (System Reserved Partition) so the installer would run.
Patrick OCT 22, 01:29 AM

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Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist:

Plenty are still used for other things, audio/video editing, CAD, document creation, etc...



Exactly. My HP Workstation was a powerhouse when it came out a dozen(?) years ago. I use it for photo and video editing and audio recording/manipulation. I've upgraded the dual processors and the RAM and the graphics card and gone to SSD drives. It dual boots to either Win 7 or Win 10. It runs my apps exceedingly well. I'm not about to bin this computer simply because Microsoft says it's not a candidate for Win 11. The hell with that. I'm hoping by the time my extended Win 10 updates expire in a year's time that there are other options to investigate.
Raydar OCT 22, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:

I'm hoping by the time my extended Win 10 updates expire in a year's time that there are other options to investigate.



Well, Windows 7 was replaced with 8, which was pretty much universally panned/ignored. (What happened to 9?!)
10 wasn't really popular, but it caught on. 11 is now also despised for a lot of reasons.
Maybe 12 will be a "keeper". But I don't see it. The way Microsloth (and the rest of the industry) is trending, they'll want to charge subscription fees. Yeah... no to that.
They'll have to come up with one hell of a sales pitch.

Chris, you're pretty much still "in the thick of it". What do you see happening?
TheDigitalAlchemist OCT 22, 02:27 PM

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Originally posted by Raydar:


Well, Windows 7 was replaced with 8, which was pretty much universally panned/ignored. (What happened to 9?!)
10 wasn't really popular, but it caught on. 11 is now also despised for a lot of reasons.
Maybe 12 will be a "keeper". But I don't see it. The way Microsloth (and the rest of the industry) is trending, they'll want to charge subscription fees. Yeah... no to that.
They'll have to come up with one hell of a sales pitch.

Chris, you're pretty much still "in the thick of it". What do you see happening?




Why no Windows 9?

Are you ready?

"VERSION STRING CHECK"!

compatibility nightmare of historical proportions - (worse than Windows ME!)

"Windows 9" could mean Windows 95, 98, or 98 SE.

so apps and other things that rely on a version string would balk.

also, A certain percentage of the population might think of 95,98, then its Windows 9? 9 is less than 95! (but 7 isn't? this one, I almost would argue)


The Windows 11 installer is so crappy, it doesn't know if it will fail until it is literally 100 installed. Then it reboots and you are still in 10, with 20-40 GB of failed update sitting on the drive. GROSS.

I'm sure I've ranted about the System Reserved partition not being large enough to install the update...


The "future" of windows is "Windows 365" - "your pc in the cloud" - you will log into the machine in front of you, and you will connect to a remote instance of windows that lives in the cloud. you use Onedrive to save your data, none of it is local by default. It's gross and its coming.

They made Windows Update SO debilitating and frustrating, that end users and companies will totally buy into it.


Can't even make a local account on a Windows 11 pc unless you do some shenanigans.

Wish more people "felt" where this is all going.

Remember buying a thing, and then just using it and owning it?
A record/LP, cassette, cd dvd, bluray, physical book, etc.


Its not ranting nostalgic about the past.

"Not having a local account being the norm" is shocking to me. I HATE the thought of it.
Raydar OCT 22, 03:58 PM
Thanks very much for sharing your insights and expertise. "9, vs 95, vs 98, vs 98SE". That's hysterical! But after seeing some of the other madness that programmers have perpetrated upon us, I have exactly zero difficulty believing it.


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Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist:

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The "future" of windows is "Windows 365" - "your pc in the cloud" - you will log into the machine in front of you, and you will connect to a remote instance of windows that lives in the cloud. you use Onedrive to save your data, none of it is local by default. It's gross and its coming.
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Can't even make a local account on a Windows 11 pc unless you do some shenanigans.
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"Not having a local account being the norm" is shocking to me. I HATE the thought of it.



As someone much wiser than I once said, "Yeah... EFF THAT!"
I see exactly zero sense in saving all of my data to "the cloud" - aka "someone else's computer". I'd rather be responsible for my own security and backups, etc.
I don't even understand why they're pushing that, except to be able to charge for it on a monthly basis, and being able to hold all your data hostage, if you stop paying.
I can kind of understand how some "less than computer-literate" people might find it convenient, but some people - like me - would rather manage our own stuff.

But, having retired from the power company, I wonder how "enterprise users" are going to handle this.
I'm not sure what they're doing now, but three years ago, they/we were using Windows 10, and storing all of our data "in-house". I can't imagine that we would be willing to outsource all of our storage. That was looked at, almost ten years ago, and it was decided, then, that it was a bad idea. Security was only a small portion of the concern. I can't imagine that that has changed, just because Microsloth wants everyone to do it.

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Jake_Dragon OCT 23, 10:52 PM

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Originally posted by Raydar:

But, having retired from the power company, I wonder how "enterprise users" are going to handle this.
I'm not sure what they're doing now, but three years ago, they/we were using Windows 10, and storing all of our data "in-house". I can't imagine that we would be willing to outsource all of our storage. That was looked at, almost ten years ago, and it was decided, then, that it was a bad idea. Security was only a small portion of the concern. I can't imagine that that has changed, just because Microsloth wants everyone to do it.




It sucks until the company formats your VDI, Deletes your Citrix profile, pushes a new intune image to your desktop. Then you are so glad that you had one drive turned on, after all its not my stuff right...
But for home use? **** that....