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| EV owners, What are your thoughts about your vehicle? (Page 3/4) |
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Fats
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APR 19, 04:45 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist:
I wonder about situations about highway entrance ramps. On Long Island, there are some seriously bad setups. exits and entrance ramps that were not designed for people entering a road with people going 80mph+ in the right lane (WTF!) I think some people 'get off' on messing with people.
Do automated cars use turn signals? (I assume they do)
Also, if it realizes it can't "make an exit" because human drivers won't let them exit, will it just go to the next exit and then continue?
I have seen some EVs that looked exactly like a "regular" vehicle. but some of them feel so cheaply made, like I feel like I will break them, the door handles, especially... its like 'terribly fragile'. yuck |
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There is another issue I saw on youtube today. A self driving car was in traffic and an officer was trying to direct traffic around something, but the car just kept trying to push forward like it was confused. The (obviously smarter than me) people in the car just kept yelling through the window that it was a self driving car, and they couldn't do anything. I guess opening a door, or taking off the seatbelts would have stopped it at least. 🙄 I bet that that was some button to stop the car in an emergency as well.
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cvxjet
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APR 19, 12:13 PM
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Two things; A) The self-driving cars need to have their tech advanced much more before they are really "Ready"....Recognizing an emergency situation (Cops/wreck/flooding/debris/etc) needs to be fully addressed. There was a tesla that crashed into a guardrail where 92 comes off of southbound 880- the lane markings somehow confused the car which was in self-driving mode at the time.
B) I actually think most cars should be self-driving for one (Obvious) reason; 75% of people out there should not be trusted with riding a bike, let alone driving a car......(Idiots!)
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MidEngineManiac
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APR 19, 12:42 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cvxjet:
B) I actually think most cars should be self-driving for one (Obvious) reason; 75% of people out there should not be trusted with riding a bike, let alone driving a car......(Idiots!) |
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We just need to get rid of helmet and seat-belt laws, and ditch the airbags.
The problem will sort itself out in time.
(Either that or outlaw automatic trannys and chokes. 80% of the population is going nowhere)[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 04-19-2023).]
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MidEngineManiac
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APR 19, 12:55 PM
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For anybody else that wants to play...
I'm not about to cut up anything expensive, but I've noticed a LOT of mobility scooters on Facebook marketplace for $300-$500 the past week or 2. Springtime so I guess everybody old is getting new ones.
I might just grab one and take a crack at a 50's-style micro-car. 1800w motor or 2 can be made to fit instead of the 350 (WEEEEEE, them wheelie bars gonna get a workout ;-) ), get rid of the office chair and put a cruiser bike seat on it to make some room, then a cage/frame for EMT conduit with sheet metal riveted on. Cut out the wheel wells and put something decent sized (16 inch or so) on. 16" wheel is 21 RPM per MPH.
Pretty much getting into racing kart territory with that set-up speed-wise
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theogre
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APR 19, 08:10 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
I'm not about to cut up anything expensive, but I've noticed a LOT of mobility scooters on Facebook marketplace for $300-$500 the past week or 2. Springtime so I guess everybody old is getting new ones. |
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Many get new ones or owner dies then try to sell them.
Used ones often dead batteries or nearly dead and can't charge right.
Example: A friend had dying lead batteries and cost to get replacements thru a dealer cost way Way too much vs Insurance and co-pay buy new one and now many have Lithium types that should last longer.
If the thing works and look ok or better... Most owners and people around them won't go to local battery store and use "generic" batteries even if doesn't major work.
Even Generic batteries cost a lot but not like dealer and maker of scooter prices.
(1 small generic lead battery common for APC and other PC UPS is 30-50$ each. Some UPS use 2 or more.)
Many try to buy online but shipping cost is a lot because is heavy plus often HAZMAT charge too.
Plus can't put lead or large amounts of other batteries in the trash in many places causing more headaches.
I took ~ 100# of small lead battery to scrap but hardly worth bothering unless have copper or Al to scrap too. And that's w/ scrap yard only a few miles a away from me.
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MidEngineManiac
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APR 19, 08:28 PM
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I like the UB12220's from Amazon. Pretty much $75 (CDN) each, 22aH, hair under 10 pounds. Sealed so mounting position dont matter and lead-acid so simple and safe to play with. Only thing is they are a little bulky.
Thing with these EV's, its not the tech or machines that are lacking. From golf carts to scooters to motorcycles to microcars it ALL already exists for city use and has for 100+ years. (Excluding highway trips). It's the political/legal will to let them be used. Right now sure I can jump in a golf cart and go to walmart....then I get a 25k fine and/or 6 months in a crappy motel  for doing it.
Government isnt interested in allowing alternative transportation, they are catering to the green panic industry for the money while paying lip service to it.
Electric or gas (5hp ?) it's still a neat way to get to work or pick up a pizza. But there is no money in that for them.
https://classiccars.com/lis...erdale-florida-90405
The other thing is the cost...
Electric might be fun to play with as a hobby, but really if you got 10k burning a hole in your pocket, are you going to go buy a little puddle-jumper with very limited capability, or something more traditional with a LOT more capability ?[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 04-19-2023).]
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MidEngineManiac
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APR 19, 09:21 PM
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theogre
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APR 19, 10:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
Thing with these EV's, its not the tech or machines that are lacking. From golf carts to scooters to motorcycles to microcars it ALL already exists for city use and has for 100+ years. (Excluding highway trips). It's the political/legal will to let them be used. Right now sure I can jump in a golf cart and go to walmart....then I get a 25k fine and/or 6 months in a crappy motel for doing it. |
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In the US... For city driving, many people or companies do use "Golf Carts" on the street.
Because There are street legal units that get Tagged and Insured same as other motor vehicles.
Hotel I visit last month had a big one as a "bus" to take people to the beach that is Tagged and all seats had belts.
Some Tagged med scooters etc to use the street and shoulders too. Common in areas w/o sidewalks.
A lot of E-bikes need to meet rules and Tagged as Mopeds. Example: In many places... Any e-motor 750w, ICE ~ 55cc, or higher and max speed under 35mph can be Mopeds and Driver w/ normal License. Minors can't drive Mopeds
Max speed over 35mph has to meet rules and Tagged as full Motorcycles and Driver w/ MC License.
In many areas including NY State, Farm equipment must be tagged too. Often depend the distance you drive on roads between A B and likely other places stay need a tag or not. Most owners and cops ignore this until have a wreck.
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Wichita
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APR 20, 06:31 AM
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Everyone owning a vehicle today will be driving an EV within 20-years guaranteed. 80% adoption within 10-years.
EVs are just far superior in every way. The automakers know this, that is why they are pot committed to going full EV production and completely phasing out ICE, and most manufacturers are going 100% EVs within 2-5 years, the rest will follow by 2030.
You can laugh or ***** all you want. But you asked people in 2000 that everyone would be online and have a cell phone, including grandma, they would think you were crazy. Well?
Same for EVs.
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MidEngineManiac
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APR 20, 09:29 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by theogre:
Some Tagged med scooters etc to use the street and shoulders too. Common in areas w/o sidewalks.
A lot of E-bikes need to meet rules and Tagged as Mopeds. Example: In many places... Any e-motor 750w, ICE ~ 55cc, or higher and max speed under 35mph can be Mopeds and Driver w/ normal License. Minors can't drive Mopeds
Max speed over 35mph has to meet rules and Tagged as full Motorcycles and Driver w/ MC License.
In many areas including NY State, Farm equipment must be tagged too. Often depend the distance you drive on roads between A B and likely other places stay need a tag or not. Most owners and cops ignore this until have a wreck. |
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Here you are flat out unable to get tags and/or insurance for most of them. That article I posted above about the "motorcycle/scooter"...sure you will get busted for uninsured/unlicensed motorcycle on it, but at the same time insurance or tags for it simply dont exist. Gas bike conversions (mopeds) are the same thing. I built one last year and went through the crap. USED to be (until Nov last year) there was a federal loophole on them but that is now gone. Tractors, powered wheelchairs (yup) ect. Same thing. As is a TaTa or any of the kazillion Chinese mini-micro cars and truck and bikes.
What you can legally use on the roads IS pretty much limited to those things the government and insurance industry has been paid off on by the manufacturers.[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 04-20-2023).]
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Cant do that with a pickem-up truck. 