Seriously, what kind of future do most kids have? (or anticipate having)? (Page 3/4)
rinselberg SEP 05, 03:43 PM

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Originally posted by Wichita:
What happens when you are a parent trying to score social points among your peers, but it doesn't work with your children? I guess you just get angry at the child?



I don't know about those Tweets in that screen capture.

It crosses my mind that these could be "put ons." People using Twitter to "jerk some people's chains."
IMSA GT SEP 05, 03:48 PM

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Originally posted by Wichita:

What happens when you are a parent trying to score social points among your peers, but it doesn't work with your children? I guess you just get angry at the child?






Funny because it's almost as if the children are trying to teach the parents, and yet the parents are rebelling. Go figure.
IMSA GT SEP 05, 03:53 PM

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Originally posted by Raydar:


Your (both of you) kids are likely going to turn out fine, because you take an interest in what they're doing, and also attempt to get them interested in useful stuff.
So many people want to "parent by proxy", that it's amazing anything gets done.
My wife was a teacher, and some of the most enlightening moments of her career were parent/teacher conferences - especially concerning a "problem kid".
Almost universally, "problem kids" were the offspring of "problem adults."
Or as she used to put it, "The nut doesn't fall far from the tree."

When I was "baby making" age - late 1970s and after - I really didn't want to bring a kid into the world. (Lots of reasons for this. Some were genetic.) I didn't see things getting any better - and indeed they haven't. Just different.
But I also have seen the children born of my contemporaries grow up to become really stellar human beings, in spite of any crap they had to deal with. So... if nothing else, I guess that proves that people are adaptable. And I suspect that we will continue to be. Given the right start, I think we (or they) will do okay.



Thank you sir. I think the decline of the entire planet was when social media was invented. The internet simply ruined big-box stores but the social media ruined society. Now it's up to the parents to teach their kids to be leaders, not followers.
Cliff Pennock SEP 05, 05:35 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

Man, that's totally different than what I experienced in the 80s. As an American, everyone wanted to talk to me, and those who did, almost all of them wanted to tell me how much they thought America sucked and how the USSR would totally take over in short time. Every time I'd go to a predpark and eat french fries with mayonaise... if someone heard me speaking English, they'd come up to me and start grilling me on the U.S. and aggressions against Russia. I was like... 8, 9, 10, 12... whatever... I was like... I was just a kid and had no idea what they were talking about.



I'm surprised to read that. The Netherlands has never been pro-Russia. And in the eighties everything that came from the US was good. We ate up all the American blockbusters; Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Back To The Future, ET, Poltergeist, etc. The hit charts were dominated by American disco and soul music. And like I said, most tv series were American. Miami Vice, Alf, Mork & Mindy, Dallas, Dynasty, Dukes of Hazard, The Muppets, Magnum PI, America's Funniest Home Videos, St. Elsewhere, Hill Street Blues. I can probably name dozens more just from memory. And we copied every craze. We loved Reagan; we still think it's the best president the US has ever had.

And maybe not all European countries were pro-America, but not a single one was pro-Russia (except of course European Russia). So like I said, I really don't understand your experiences.
cvxjet SEP 05, 06:15 PM
My ex-GF's twins turned out complete opposites; The girl would try anything (learned piano- then Violin, and then took up the Viola when they needed someone to play one)- and enjoyed helping with chores and such....the boy only wanted to play video games and airsoft...Threw a fit at the dinner table because his mother told him it was his turn to clean the cat box ( All four of us took turns, every other day so it was his chore every eighth day)

I asked the kids to help with installing the IMSA side scoops on my car- The daughter started undoing screws "Don't bother me!" while the boy (Car nut- watched every episode of "Top Gear") was throwing rocks and sticks around in the backyard. He wants to OWN cool cars- but never get his hands dirty.......

He thinks his lazy, useless uncle is cool- lived with daddy until he passed away, then "Inherited" the house, cars, etc....The other Uncle got nothing.

Major truism; "Spare the rod and spoil the child"...The worst thing you can do is give your child "Everything they could want!!!" while never requiring them to help with chores and such.

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Patrick SEP 05, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

Been hearing basically that same thing every decade for the last 7 decades....



Yep, same here... except for perhaps one less decade.
82-T/A [At Work] SEP 05, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:

I'm surprised to read that. The Netherlands has never been pro-Russia. And in the eighties everything that came from the US was good. We ate up all the American blockbusters; Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Back To The Future, ET, Poltergeist, etc. The hit charts were dominated by American disco and soul music. And like I said, most tv series were American. Miami Vice, Alf, Mork & Mindy, Dallas, Dynasty, Dukes of Hazard, The Muppets, Magnum PI, America's Funniest Home Videos, St. Elsewhere, Hill Street Blues. I can probably name dozens more just from memory. And we copied every craze. We loved Reagan; we still think it's the best president the US has ever had.

And maybe not all European countries were pro-America, but not a single one was pro-Russia (except of course European Russia). So like I said, I really don't understand your experiences.



Well, I'm glad to hear it. People would go out of their way to talk to me (negatively) about the United States. My cousins mostly liked the US... and when they'd visit they were always really excited when we would take them to D.C., etc. But yeah, it was constant, almost every summer that I'd go there.
MidEngineManiac SEP 06, 02:40 PM

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Originally posted by IMSA GT:

Now it's up to the parents to teach their kids to be leaders, not followers.



That comes with it's own problems.

You end up with an entire generation or 2 of "Gretas" who think they rule the world and start melting down, stomping their feet and screaming "how dare you defy me" when they finally learn they dont even rule their own belly-button-lint.

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rinselberg SEP 07, 04:29 PM
Seriously, what kind of future do most kids have? (or anticipate having)?

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82-T/A [At Work] SEP 08, 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:

I'm surprised to read that. The Netherlands has never been pro-Russia. And in the eighties everything that came from the US was good. We ate up all the American blockbusters; Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Back To The Future, ET, Poltergeist, etc. The hit charts were dominated by American disco and soul music. And like I said, most tv series were American. Miami Vice, Alf, Mork & Mindy, Dallas, Dynasty, Dukes of Hazard, The Muppets, Magnum PI, America's Funniest Home Videos, St. Elsewhere, Hill Street Blues. I can probably name dozens more just from memory. And we copied every craze. We loved Reagan; we still think it's the best president the US has ever had.

And maybe not all European countries were pro-America, but not a single one was pro-Russia (except of course European Russia). So like I said, I really don't understand your experiences.




Yeah, I get it... the only thing I can figure is that this is like that old argument... a white man says, "I don't see racism anywhere..." and then the black man says, "You're not looking hard enough."

As an American, even though I look 100% Dutch, I still stood out anytime I talked, and people would immediately engage me... like grown adults, and start talking to me about foreign policy... which is completely ridiculous. Obviously, I am not comparing myself to a black man, hahah... I have no emotional hurt from people bashing America in the Netherlands, but I even very distinctly remember this one guy who was REALLY, REALLY getting on me about America. He kept telling me, and trying to get me to agree that the United States was very dirty... (basically, suggesting that everything was like Detroit and what NYC is today). I really didn't know how to respond, and my cousin had to politely ask him more than a couple of times to get him to back off. I mean, like literally every single time I'd go out in public with my cousins.

I also remember this old guy... hahah... I was walking into some bar / restaurant that was next to Kirkenhoff (I know I'm spelling it wrong, but the large park with the Tulips), and this guy was sitting at the bar playing some kind of gambling machine, and when he heard me speaking English, he started raging at me like you would believe, screaming in Dutch something fierce, haha... reminded me of when I'd really piss off my dad. I had no idea what he was saying, and my cousin just said for me to ignore it and we got out of there quick.

But mostly, everyone was super nice... of course. I think it was a matter of I was American, it seemed obvious, and the few people who disliked America during that time, made it well known to me since people didn't travel AS much back then as they do now.