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williegoat
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FEB 21, 04:12 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
That is a "g," my good sir.
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| quote | Originally posted by Cheever3000:
It's a "q" that flipped over before it landed. You are misinformed.
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You guys are just being mean.
It's obviously non-binary, since it is neither a zero nor a one. So, the only woke thing to do is wait for the symbol to declare their* preferred pronouns.
*their being a non gender or quantity specific pronoun
Edit: I am going to go ahead and apologize now. I realize that "their" is a possessive pronoun and to possess something is quickly falling out of favor. It is clearly a Capitalist concept and should be scorned.[This message has been edited by williegoat (edited 02-21-2022).]
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blackrams
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FEB 21, 04:24 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
You guys are just being mean.
It's obviously non-binary, since it is neither a zero nor a one. So, the only woke thing to do is wait for the symbol to declare their* preferred pronouns.
*their being a non gender or quantity specific pronoun
Edit: I am going to go ahead and apologize now. I realize that "their" is a possessive pronoun and to possess something is quickly falling out of favor. It is clearly a Capitalist concept and should be scorned.
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This is a wonderful example of what humor is. Thanks for posting it Willie. 
Rams
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Patrick
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FEB 21, 05:33 PM
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There are several members of this forum, but one in particular, who love to attach labels to people. Anyone who doesn't conform to their specific view of the world is labelled a "Leftist". Doesn't matter if those labelled as "Leftists" have varying opinions on plenty of topics, they've been pigeon-holed as "Leftists", and are continually referred to as "Leftists" here.
And what may you ask is the point of labeling people as "Leftists". Simple... the forum posting rules about being "civilized" with each other are circumvented by posting the nastiest crap on a daily basis directed at "Leftists". So yeah, the people doing the labeling and the subsequent trash talk can smugly say that they're not stating anything personal, that it's directed at a group. It's such a bogus excuse, but this mockery of the forum rules has been working wonderfully for them for years!
Here's an example...
"Cliff Pennock, you're a Centralist." ... "Centralists are toad licking monkey waxers." ... "You're a Centralist, Cliff Pennock."
Now multiply that by ten times, a hundred times, a thousand times. It gets more than tiresome.
And I admit, I'm as guilty as anyone here for responding to this continual harassment in a less than polite fashion. And I make no apologies for that. I've seen too many fine decent people just leave this forum because they're fed up with the constant baiting.
I'm all for politics being put (and kept) in the Trash Can. It's where it's always belonged. I doubt anyone's opinion on a matter has ever been changed by the nonsense that passes for political "discussion" here in O/T. Let the people who enjoy all the political posturing wallow in their own filth elsewhere.
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MidEngineManiac
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FEB 21, 05:40 PM
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If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and swims like a duck....It's probably not an Elephant. They dont quack.
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Fats
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FEB 21, 05:48 PM
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 [/QUOTE]
My take on this picture being used as a "everyone sees things differently" is that the person that drew the non-binary she/he/letter knew what it was, and what it was supposed to represent. It's everyone coming by later saying what they think it is.
It IS a certain thing, could be a 6, could be a 9, but the person who placed it there knows and everyone else is either right or wrong. There aren't multiple answers to what something is, things are or are not.
It's Cliffs house, I get that. I also get that he should have taken the train. I'm not successful, and I'm not telling him how to do anything at all. This is all just a thought exercise.
O/T used to be a hopping place. People were constantly posting projects they were working on. Cliff gave cars their own section to take away the clutter. I don't know how that section is doing, I don't go over there. But I miss a lot of the projects and people that were here. Part of O/T was removed and I bet traffic overall started dropping. O/T certainly dropped in activity. We don't click around a lot here, we scroll and read.
Now were removing another thing from O/T and putting it somewhere else. At what point does simply removing things kill the patient? There are subsections to the forums, and each started post is supposed to choose a subsection. The viewers then choose what they can see or not see. I don't understand (as I said before) people choosing to read something, and then reporting it... That seems to be a part of the problem to me. Encourage them to un-click politics or grow thicker skin.
Allow us to block certain members in extreme cases, just make their posts blank to us or something. I don't know.
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cvxjet
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FEB 21, 06:27 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
That is a "g," my good sir. |
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Dang! I was trying to figure something out but you beat me to it (Good job, sir!)
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randye
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FEB 21, 06:28 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Cliff Pennock:
Since apparantly, it is so incredibly difficult for some of you to have any kind of discussion in a civilized way, and since I'm getting sick and tired of the hundreds of posts that get reported to me (not to mention the PMs and emails), I'm temporarily moving political threads to the Trash Can. Maybe I'll move them back later, maybe I'll rename "The Trash Can" to "Politics". We'll see.
It's either that or banning of political threads altogether or closing TO/T until I'm convinced people can behave again. Don't like political threads being in The Trash Can? Tough luck. Go find some politics forum instead of posting your diatribes on a car forum.
I'm starting with moving political threads that have new posts since yesterday. Every other political thread here in TO/T that gets a new post, will be moved to The Trash Can |
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Presumably your posting rules will still be in effect there, as they should be.
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williegoat
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FEB 21, 06:30 PM
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I understand why Mr Pennock is moving the political threads to the trash can, but I am disappointed that it had to happen.
I see two issues that are causing the problem:
1) There is a small handful of regular posters who insist on trying to pick fights with everyone. Regardless of the motivation, this juvenile behavior needs to cease.
2) If someone is offended by a word or an idea, he should just lock all of his doors and cancel his internet. It is not up to Mr Pennock to make him comfortable. Stop bothering him.
Both problems could be solved by following some simple advice: Grow up.
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MidEngineManiac
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FEB 21, 06:32 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Fats:
Allow us to block certain members in extreme cases, just make their posts blank to us or something. I don't know.
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A lot of the other forums I am on have "block" features to get rid of irritants. They are only semi-successful in the quoted text (like I did above) is not blocked so some irritants still filter through.
It does help cut down on it though.
Only one I know of that really works properly is farcebooks, and my block list there is literally over a hundred long. Some of that is fact-checkers but a good chunk is still just ones I dont wanna deal with. (NOPE, a "block' doesnt limit their right to free speech but it does enforce my right not to be the audience.)[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 02-21-2022).]
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Cliff Pennock
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FEB 21, 06:34 PM
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I've considered several solutions - all take quite some time to implement.
But these political threads were getting out of hand and were polluting TO/T. I miss TO/T as it used to be. A place to unwind and have some fun. It used to be my favorite place on PFF. Now I'd rather see it go because of all the petty bickering going on here and the amount of crap I get because of it. I'm not talking about the mails, PMs, reported posts. I'm talking about the crap I receive from people accusing me of some kind of favoritism. That I allow person A to say things, but not person B. That I myself am a lefty/rightwing/socialist/capitalist/whatever. While the simple fact is that I don't read every post on PFF. Far from it. In fact, I only read posts people direct my attention to.
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Temporarily moving political threads to The Trash Can is not really a solution, but it will clean up TO/T in the short term. I will not ban religious or political threads. I still believe you should be able to discuss (almost) anything on PFF. But like I said, I want TO/T to go back to what it once was.
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