The CDC now admits that 75% of "covid deaths" are not from covid (Page 3/4)
sourmash JAN 11, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub:


You used projections from 2019...

If you don't know how the data works and just live off of soundbites from dubious sources, I can see how you'd end up confused. But the data is transparent, and it's available. You can download it yourself.


You listen to those who said :
15 days to flatten the curve.
Tens of millions will die.
It came from bats.
I did not fund gain of function at Wuhan.
The vaccines are 90+ effective.
The vaccines are safe and effective.
The vaccinated don't create variants.
The vaccinated don't contract covid.
The vaccinated don't transmit covid.
The vaccinated don't die from.covid.
The unvaccinated are the only ones spreading variants and endangering the vaccinated.
The vaccines have no long term adverse effects.
Masks don't protect against transmission.
Masks protect against transmission.

You keep falling for the media run propaganda. Yes, we see it clearly.

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Jake_Dragon JAN 11, 02:29 PM
You want a correct report then stop tying it to a monetary value.
Health organizations make money, that is how they stay in business. Doesn't matter where they are, here in the states or in another country. End of the day they stay open by filling beds and seeing patients.

Every vaccination has a $$ tied to it, you may not pay it out of your pocket but it does come out of the money that never made it to your pocket. So unless you are not paying taxes, anywhere you are paying for this.
When this first started they were reporting every case of Covid, that is a good thing but they tied it to the cause of death. I believe that is where the numbers were inflated.
Then when those same ****ers that used inside information started buying stocks they didn't get in a hurry to correct anything.

The government has an agenda, its above us to question them. Best you can do is vote and hope that your vote counts.
But you want to get rid of Covid, then stop monetizing it. Until Covid stops generating money it will never go away, why do you think diabetes and cancer are still a thing?

We are all just stupid meat puppets and until we stop generating revenue there will always be someone pulling your strings.
Slavery never went away they just got better at hiding it. Now shut up and roll up your sleeve we have to end this until the next thing comes along.
Fats JAN 11, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub:


You used projections from 2019...

Final death tallies aren't stamped complete for years. But you go back in time and you can see how little they change after the first month or two following the first provisional count. That's why, in my own report, I noted that it's not recommended to use the latest 4 weeks of data, and why I included a filter for included weeks.

If you don't know how the data works and just live off of soundbites from dubious sources, I can see how you'd end up confused. But the data is transparent, and it's available. You can download it yourself.

Me being a Libertarian has nothing to do with any of the above. A government should serve to protect the rights of its citizens, and little else. But just because our current government is wildly overblown, doesn't mean all of the people in it are corrupt. It doesn't mean everything the government produces is a lie. It also doesn't mean it's all truth. But this thread is based on a mischaracterization of a snip of a study, not based on fact. The mischaracterization can be easily disproven, and yet so many fall for it.



OK. I don't know the death rate, but you do then? How's that work?
theBDub JAN 11, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by Fats:


OK. I don't know the death rate, but you do then? How's that work?



Brad, I don't know how much clearer I can state this, so this will be my last statement on it. I used provisional death counts from the CDC. Provisional deaths are based on death certificate data received, and is not received immediately by the CDC or equally-timed across all states. Therefore, for the first 4 weeks or so, the data is spotty. After about 4 weeks, it starts to look closer to the true death count. After about 8 weeks, it's very very close to the final death count. In other words, the vast majority of death certificates have been received. However, missing persons or other anomalies may not yet be accounted for. The CDC usually finalizes the death count about two years after the completion of a year. Taking all of this into account, provisional death counts are reliable to use after about 8 weeks, you just have to know that it may have very minor adjustments over time as more death certificates come in.

You used a projection from 2019, before COVID-19 had any deaths in America. The projection was for what the UN thought deaths would look like based on the existing baseline death rate. If you're interested in looking at the total death count and comparing it to years prior to get an indication of the effect of COVID-19 in sum, you can't use a projection of what deaths will look like that was created before COVID-19 ever happened. It is like claiming Hilary Clinton won the 2016 election because you pulled up an old source that said she was projected to win.
sourmash JAN 11, 05:46 PM
Follow the money.

Follow the science really means Stop.asking questions.
rinselberg JAN 11, 07:56 PM
What the CDC said was that 75% of people who were vaccinated against Covid but died of Covid had at least 4 comorbidities.

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blackrams JAN 11, 08:01 PM
Deleted, just not worth it.
Folks aren't going to change their minds so, why bother.

Rams

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sourmash JAN 11, 08:31 PM
Oh, I saw what you posted.

So, being against Covid19 trial mRNA injections is not being anti-vaccine.

You guys need to stop being anti-reality.

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blackrams JAN 11, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

Oh, I saw what you posted.

So, being against Covid19 trial mRNA injections is not being anti-vaccine.

You guys need to stop being anti-reality.




Seriously, I really don't care if you saw my original post or not. Although, if you had, I have no doubt you would have responded.

Do whatever you want, I really don't care.

Rams
sourmash JAN 11, 10:59 PM
I did respond. Your premise was a problem.
They arent vaccines. I'm not anti-vax based on that argument.