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blackrams
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NOV 27, 09:28 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
The shots cause pericarditis and myocarditis, especially in younger people. The israelis were first to report on this.
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While I'm not up to date on the latest medical journals, last I read, these issues were being studied/researched and there has not been a final determination.
Just cause you want something to be true, doesn't make it so.
Rams
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sourmash
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NOV 27, 09:31 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:While I'm not up to date on the latest medical journals, last I read, these issues were being studied/researched and there has not been a final determination.
Just cause you want something to be true, doesn't make it so.
Rams
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You aren't saying anything. I know you thought you were, but there's nothing in your post. The last sentence of your post applies you everything in it.
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sourmash
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NOV 27, 09:40 AM
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The link below displays just how I'll equipped a couple of posters here are. Blackrams will just transparently attempt to BS his way around a topic claiming he read.anything.
Here's a link that a 10 year old could've done. The link is the very first result of a 3 word search.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine...ons/myocarditis.html
Summary
Since April 2021, increased cases of myocarditis and pericarditis have been reported in the United States after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna), particularly in adolescents and young adults. There has not been a similar reporting pattern observed after receipt of the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine (Johnson & Johnson).
My comment is, that's according to the CDC and the J&J shot isn't an mRNA shot. I realize I'll have to explain that to those certain people, so, the same results aren't seen with Janssen which tells you it isn't donut eating as the cause. It's the mRNA shots it happens with.
Now did either of those guys do a simple search? No, hell no.[This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 11-27-2021).]
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blackrams
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NOV 27, 09:43 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
You aren't saying anything. I know you thought you were, but there's nothing in your post. The last sentence of your post applies you everything in it. |
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You are absolutely correct. Once a person has closed their mind to another possibility, nothing will change it. 
Rams
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sourmash
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NOV 27, 09:50 AM
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Is the goal of the challenge you guys made to the statement here just an attempt to waste time until the other person gives up?
Now that I've reposted the study summary anyone could've done in less than 30 seconds, what have we determined?
The gene therapies cause myocarditis and pericarditis.[This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 11-27-2021).]
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Hudini
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NOV 27, 09:52 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
The link below displays just how I'll equipped a couple of posters here are. Blackrams will just transparently attempt to BS his way around a topic claiming he read.anything.
Here's a link that a 10 year old could've done. The link is the very first result of a 3 word search.
https://www.cdc.gov/vaccine...ons/myocarditis.html
Summary
Since April 2021, increased cases of myocarditis and pericarditis have been reported in the United States after mRNA COVID-19 vaccination (Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna), particularly in adolescents and young adults. There has not been a similar reporting pattern observed after receipt of the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine (Johnson & Johnson).
My comment is that the J&J shot isn't an mRNA shot. I realize I'll have to explain that to those certain people, so, the same results aren't seen with Janssen which tells you it isn't donut eating as the cause. It's the mRNA shots it happens with.
Now did either of those guys do a simple search? No, hell no.
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You made the claim so the burden is on you to show proof. Why do you insist I do your work for you?
I specifically stated it's unknown at this time whether the symptoms described above are the direct result of the vaccination. Maybe it is and we shouldn't allow minors to get the vaccine. Or maybe it isn't and correlation doesn't equal causation. I'd bet money it's being researched. My problem with you is that you have already decided the vaccine is the problem. You can believe whatever you want and act accordingly, but stop trying to say the sky is falling without proof.
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Hudini
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NOV 27, 09:56 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
Is the goal of the challenge you guys made to the statement here just an attempt to waste time until the other person gives up?
Now that I've reposted the study summary anyone could've done in less than 30 seconds, what have we determined?
The gene therapies cause myocarditis and pericarditis.
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The CDC did NOT say gene therapies cause myocarditis and pericarditis.
Did you even read the report from the link you posted?
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blackrams
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NOV 27, 10:03 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
Is the goal of the challenge you guys made to the statement here just an attempt to waste time until the other person gives up?
Now that I've reposted the study summary anyone could've done in less than 30 seconds, what have we determined?
The gene therapies cause myocarditis and pericarditis.
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And yet, you still avoid quoting the CDC recommendations that vaccination is recommended for 5 year olds and up. There has not been a final determination, even your own "evidence" indicates that but, you've made up your mind. It doesn't matter to me what you personally do but, until you provide factual proven evidence, the millions of folks who have been vaccinated seem to greatly outweigh your pre-determined beliefs.
Rams
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sourmash
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NOV 27, 10:06 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
You made the claim so the burden is on you to show proof. Why do you insist I do your work for you? |
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Your problem with credibility is that you've been told it's already been posted here previously. Your self worship tells you that it only matters if you acknowledge it. The rest if us don't care if you observed it.
| quote | | I specifically stated it's unknown at this time whether the symptoms described above are the direct result of the vaccination. Maybe it is and we shouldn't allow minors to get the vaccine. Or maybe it isn't and correlation doesn't equal causation. I'd bet money it's being researched. My problem with you is that you have already decided the vaccine is the problem. You can believe whatever you want and act accordingly, but stop trying to say the sky is falling without proof. |
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False. My statements aren't what you decide they are Mr Self Idolatry. They are just what they are. The gene therapies are causing SOME problems, SPECIFICALLY MYOCARDITIS and PERICARDITIS, especially in young people. Your problem is speaking in absolute terms about what others say.
Yeah, it's being studying. Israeli studies were posted in previous months. THE SCIENCE, which includes the CDC says it happens. You want something more. While you diddle, people are dying.
You would be better served accepting THE SCIENCE.
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sourmash
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NOV 27, 10:19 AM
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| quote | | Originally posted by blackrams:And yet, you still avoid quoting the CDC recommendations that vaccination is recommended for 5 year olds and up. There has not been a final determination, even your own "evidence" indicates that but, you've made up your mind. It doesn't matter to me what you personally do but, until you provide factual proven evidence, the millions of folks who have been vaccinated seem to greatly outweigh your pre-determined beliefs. Rams |
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I'm smart enough to remember the topic, which isnt recommendations. Get educated.
So, 'the last reading' you did was just BS as I explained. Anyone can see you are just talking out of your rear. You can't even come up with an article that you read. You just make claims and then throw poo.
You're the guy who fear-mongered covid, urging people to take these shots so they won't get covid. Then STUDIES show you can still get it.
Then you stated you didn't want uninjected people around you because they can give you and your family covid.
Then STUDIES show the injected people are creating breakthroughs that infect the uninjected.
Then you changed horses to say people have the right not to get injected as a choice and you won't encourage them.
Today you said you read something, but I showed that that is not likely. STUDIES show that the gene therapies are causing MYOCARDITIS and PERICARDITIS.
At every step, I've been right. You haven't. Your mistake is taking the position of THE SCIENCE. Then The Science later confesses actual results that refute previous claims.
This isn't difficult. The Science is just not that credible. Fauci is also The Science and he says there are no long term adverse effects. Even you know that's BS.[This message has been edited by sourmash (edited 11-27-2021).]
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