Columbus Day? Why does he get credit? (Page 3/7)
Jonesy OCT 11, 04:10 PM
Columbus also helped to create a massive slave trade economy as well, so he gets credit for that..

So not what i would call a "hero" or someone to be celebrated.

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williegoat OCT 11, 04:12 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

But you won't answer the question asked. Why not?


I already helped you once today.


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Vikings of that somewhat ancient era, did they make it to or settle in the Soutwest of North America.


This time you will have to look it up for yourself.
sourmash OCT 11, 04:16 PM

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Originally posted by Jonesy:

Columbus also helped to create a massive slave trade economy as well, so he gets credit for that..

So not what i would call a "hero" or someone to be celebrated.




If you look at who it was that took the first slave on Columbus's voyage it might open up a revealing pattern that continued from before that time and into the colonies in North America.
sourmash OCT 11, 04:17 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

This time you will have to look it up for yourself.



You can tell us. We probably pretty know already. Don't be afraid.
rinselberg OCT 11, 04:20 PM
"Did Italian sailors know that the United States [sic] existed 150 years before [the famous voyage of] Christopher Columbus?"

Cory Weinberg for Press Stories; October 11, 2021.
https://presstories.com/202...covered% 20in%202013.

Not a long article.

I think the question that is presented as the title or banner for the article is not clearly answered by the article.

"Maybe."

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cvxjet OCT 11, 04:53 PM
Wlliegoat is right; The Chinese were here "First" (Ignoring the "Native Americans").....Then Leif, then finally Columbus- But he was the one who got public recognition.

I have always thought that it would be cool to change "Columbus day" to "Explorers' day" which would celebrate all of the explorers- including people who explore other-than-the Earth's surface......(Scientists, engineers, etc)
randye OCT 11, 05:15 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:


I am sure those Vikings that came to America were saints just trying to bring the word of Odin to a new land.




It took my enthusiastic Norse ancestors a long time to learn the basic principle of: "Rape and pillage....THEN burn."
williegoat OCT 11, 05:19 PM

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Originally posted by cvxjet:

Wlliegoat is right; The Chinese were here "First" (Ignoring the "Native Americans").....Then Leif, then finally Columbus- But he was the one who got public recognition.

I have always thought that it would be cool to change "Columbus day" to "Explorers' day" which would celebrate all of the explorers- including people who explore other-than-the Earth's surface......(Scientists, engineers, etc)


People first came to the western hemisphere across the Bering straits during the last ice age. That is why I say "the Chinese". The "native Americans" are from Asia.
There is also some evidence that during the same period of time, some people followed the ice shelf across the north Atlantic from the area that is now France and arrived in north America from the east coast. Look up the Solutrean migration.

No, it was not Vikings as sourboy suggests.
williegoat OCT 11, 05:27 PM



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I saw three ships a-sailin', they were all heading my way
I asked the captain what his name was
And how come he didn't drive a truck
He said his name was Columbus, I just said, "Good luck"

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sourmash OCT 11, 05:43 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:
No, it was not Vikings as sourboy suggests.



What was not Vikings? Quote where someone said it was Vikings as you're quoted claiming. Good luck, little willie. You're just making things up now.

And then tell us what you think about Vikings of the era that are known to have arrived here a thousand years ago possibly making it to the Southwest of North America.