Say goodbye to baseball's Cleveland Indians and hello to the Cleveland Guardians (Page 3/4)
blackrams AUG 01, 09:15 AM
Apparently, the KC Chiefs "Woke" up and are now following Cleveland's example. The Chiefs are putting War Paint out to pasture.
While the Chiefs may think this will be enough, the Left will not be distracted. I just feel sorry for War Paint. He was too young to retire and will now be un-employed. I wonder if he'll be eligible for a check.
I'm thinking some NFL team should change their name to the Conservatives, another could be the Progressives and see how that flies. The next Super Bowl could draw some very high ratings.

Rams

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sourmash AUG 01, 10:09 AM
The obvious new name is The Chefs.
82-T/A [At Work] AUG 02, 07:07 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Tom Hanks delivers an odic reveal of the Cleveland Guardians, who become the heirs to baseball's Cleveland Indians after the end of the 2021 season. MSNBC's Brian Williams sets it up and has the last word. YouTube video segment, 4+ minutes.


Isn't Brian Williams the guy who lied saying that he was taking rocket fire or machinegun fire while he was traveling from Bagram to Kabul in a helicopter? When no such thing actually happened?
rinselberg AUG 02, 08:23 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
Isn't Brian Williams the guy who lied saying that he was taking rocket fire or machinegun fire while he was traveling from Bagram to Kabul in a helicopter? When no such thing actually happened?


Brian Williams is that guy.

That YouTube segment is mostly Tom Hanks, promoting the idea of the Cleveland "Guardians" as a worthy successor to the Cleveland Indians, in the lineage of franchise names.

Brian Williams just sets it up and makes a brief remark or two after the end of it. He doesn't have enough time in this segment to work in a lie, or at least, a lie of any consequence.

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randye AUG 02, 08:40 PM
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randye AUG 02, 08:52 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

Isn't Brian Williams the guy who lied saying that he was taking rocket fire or machinegun fire while he was traveling from Bagram to Kabul in a helicopter? When no such thing actually happened?



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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Brian Williams is that guy. That YouTube segment is mostly Tom Hanks,





Isn't Tom Hanks the guy who was born in California and who lives in California and has never lived in Cleveland and is a college dropout and Hollyweird entertainer that pretends to be other people for a living?

So you're basically just posting the OPINIONS of a documented LIAR and a California college dropout / entertainer.

Do you wonder why you have NO CREDIBILITY HERE ?
82-T/A [At Work] AUG 02, 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by randye:

Isn't Tom Hanks the guy who was born in California and who lives in California and has never lived in Cleveland and is a college dropout and Hollyweird entertainer that pretends to be other people for a living?

So you're basically just posting the OPINIONS of a documented LIAR and a California college dropout / entertainer.

Do you wonder why you have NO CREDIBILITY HERE ?




I haven't cared enough to look up polling... but if they ACTUALLY had support from the majority of people in Cleveland, then I'd support it... since it's their team. But my gut feeling is that it's just a couple of white liberals from the East and West Coast that started this and pushed it... and then they found some small insignificant Indian tribe to support them. Has there been polling among native American tribes? Do they even care? What percentage of Clevelanders actually care?

I can KIND of understand the Washington Redskins... that would be like creating a team called the Hampton Crackers... but Cleveland Indians? Why is that so bad?

Does this mean Florida State University will be pressured (again) to change their name? Even though the Seminole Indian Tribe has repeatedly said they like having a school and team named after them?
sourmash AUG 02, 10:37 PM
No proven liar like Williama should have any platform at all. Why would a person waste their time with a liar?
rinselberg AUG 03, 12:08 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

I haven't cared enough to look up polling... but if they ACTUALLY had support from the majority of people in Cleveland, then I'd support it... since it's their team. But my gut feeling is that it's just a couple of white liberals from the East and West Coast that started this and pushed it... and then they found some small insignificant Indian tribe to support them. Has there been polling among native American tribes? Do they even care? What percentage of Clevelanders actually care?

I can KIND of understand the Washington Redskins... that would be like creating a team called the Hampton Crackers... but Cleveland Indians? Why is that so bad?

Does this mean Florida State University will be pressured (again) to change their name? Even though the Seminole Indian Tribe has repeatedly said they like having a school and team named after them?


I don't think it's incumbent or should be incumbent that a majority of the current fans and followers of the Cleveland MLB franchise enthusiastically support the name change.

Those are the people that I would be concerned about, if I had a financial stake in the franchise.

I expect the new Guardians name will "grow" on people. Before they were called the "Indians" they had some other name (long time ago, by now). I doubt they put that change up for any kind of public referendum.

I think one problem with the Indians name was that part of the brand was a cartoon-like caricature of "Chief Wahoo" and that even though they had recently stopped having that on their uniform caps and jerseys and other branded merchandise, the memory sticks.

I think the big stakeholders here--the owners of the Cleveland MLB franchise--were not concerned about Florida State University, or the Atlanta Braves, or the Kansas City Chiefs (etc.) or anything beyond their own Cleveland MLB franchise--and I think that's how it should be.

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williegoat AUG 03, 12:34 AM
The whole thing could have been fixed by simply calling them the "Cleveland Non Derogatory Names" or simply the Cleveland NDNs.