Transgender athletes (Page 3/5)
D3M6B JUN 28, 04:00 PM
i don't really want to hijack a topic
nor start a fight because someone feels attack

that said I'm generally curious.
why is the majority of this community. which the consensus voice is "don't interfere with my life" "i don't want somebody else to tell me what to do or how to live my life"

always seem to want to tell others what the rules are. how they should live and operate accordingly to?
when you refuse to let others do the same to you

i generally want to know why it is that i see this as hypocrisy and those I'm referencing do not. as i feel at this point i might be missing something and thus would be classified as ignorant on the matter


Jake_Dragon JUN 28, 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by D3M6B:

i don't really want to hijack a topic
nor start a fight because someone feels attack

that said I'm generally curious.
why is the majority of this community. which the consensus voice is "don't interfere with my life" "i don't want somebody else to tell me what to do or how to live my life"

always seem to want to tell others what the rules are. how they should live and operate accordingly to?
when you refuse to let others do the same to you

i generally want to know why it is that i see this as hypocrisy and those I'm referencing do not. as i feel at this point i might be missing something and thus would be classified as ignorant on the matter




The distinction is when it infringes on someone else
Do your thing until your thing gets in the way of my thing.

You want to put on a dress, do so I don't care. But if you want to put on a dress then fool someone into dating you? See you are infringing on someone's right to know who they are dating.
Same with "sports" you should know who you are competing with and that its a fair and level competition.
2.5 JUN 28, 05:15 PM

quote
Originally posted by D3M6B:

i don't really want to hijack a topic
nor start a fight because someone feels attack

that said I'm generally curious.
why is the majority of this community. which the consensus voice is "don't interfere with my life" "i don't want somebody else to tell me what to do or how to live my life"

always seem to want to tell others what the rules are. how they should live and operate accordingly to?
when you refuse to let others do the same to you

i generally want to know why it is that i see this as hypocrisy and those I'm referencing do not. as i feel at this point i might be missing something and thus would be classified as ignorant on the matter




Actually, for example: I look at telling a team they now have a girl who is actually a guy on their team, or that as an opposing team they will be going up against one, as forcing them to comply.
D3M6B JUN 28, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:


The distinction is when it infringes on someone else
Do your thing until your thing gets in the way of my thing.

You want to put on a dress, do so I don't care. But if you want to put on a dress then fool someone into dating you? See you are infringing on someone's right to know who they are dating.
Same with "sports" you should know who you are competing with and that its a fair and level competition.




I understand were you're coming from and your logic.
If I may interject. In the venue of sports. Theirs a governing body which has regulations which tell them the guidelines and requirements for entry and participation.
If said transgender meets those. Shouldn't they be allowed entry?

I to do not agree with transgender participation. As sex is not gender.
That said. The Olympic committee as well as other institutions should of addressed this back in 2018/19 when the powerlifting Minnesota brought this issue into the forefront
2.5 JUN 28, 05:25 PM

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Originally posted by D3M6B:


i generally want to know why it is that i see this as hypocrisy and those I'm referencing do not. as i feel at this point i might be missing something and thus would be classified as ignorant on the matter




I appreciate the question and also the way you asked. I welcome your thoughts and further conversation.
2.5 JUN 28, 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by D3M6B:

I understand were you're coming from and your logic.
If I may interject. In the venue of sports. Theirs a governing body which has regulations which tell them the guidelines and requirements for entry and participation.
If said transgender meets those. Shouldn't they be allowed entry?




At some point did they remove gender / sex from said guidelines / requirements?
D3M6B JUN 28, 05:50 PM

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Originally posted by 2.5:


At some point did they remove gender / sex from said guidelines / requirements?



Not remove. But inserted language to allow for transition/reassignment

https://stillmed.olympic.or...erandrogenism-en.pdf
D3M6B JUN 28, 05:51 PM
Thank you. And I too enjoy deep conflicting debate/conversations
As it's the road to at least gain an understanding of the foundation the opposite side has built there ideology upon
Hudini JUN 29, 07:23 AM

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Originally posted by D3M6B:
I understand were you're coming from and your logic.
If I may interject. In the venue of sports. Theirs a governing body which has regulations which tell them the guidelines and requirements for entry and participation.
If said transgender meets those. Shouldn't they be allowed entry?

I to do not agree with transgender participation. As sex is not gender.
That said. The Olympic committee as well as other institutions should of addressed this back in 2018/19 when the powerlifting Minnesota brought this issue into the forefront



Governing bodies don’t always make the correct decisions. Think slavery. It was once legal. That doesn’t make it right.
2.5 JUN 29, 10:52 AM

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Originally posted by D3M6B:


Not remove. But inserted language to allow for transition/reassignment

https://stillmed.olympic.or...erandrogenism-en.pdf



Then if it had to be changed, they didnt meet the requirements, right?