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| How can you just ''walk on by''...? (Page 3/3) |
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williegoat
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APR 09, 08:12 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
Well, in today's 'cancel' atmosphere, this one should raise some hackles among a few people.
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OK, now you done it! I'm going to spend the whole weekend listening to fiddle and pedal steel music now.
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MidEngineManiac
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APR 09, 11:31 PM
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Todd, I spent 3 1/2 years living right in the middle of them.
I've seen 1st-hand the damage and destruction they cause and sorry if I got hard and jaded....but as far as I am concerned a dead doper is one less violent problem to deal with.
When I 1st moved in to that place, I guess I was kinda naive. Never really dealt with them before. I tried to be a decent human, let them use the couch for a night, let them use my phone....
I learned fast. REAL ****ing fast what they are....THAT help wont be happening anymore. Sorry, I may be some candian dumb-ass redneck, but when ya puke in my kitchen sink and floor due to dope then say its not your problem......
Welllllll......
YUP !!!!!!!
Walk on by.......never again !!!!!
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TheDigitalAlchemist
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APR 10, 08:49 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
The impression I get of the "Bay area" is that you can't walk around the block without stepping over a wino or two. How bad is it really?
TDA, aren't you in or near the City?
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No, We were at a very “forest-y” park. Deers and such. The city is a very different situation.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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APR 10, 01:57 PM
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Yeah, I don't know... I was never raised like that. It's no different than when you park your car next to someone. Do you get out and make sure you don't hit your door on the other person's car? I do... and it's not because I care about my car (at the time, 2002 Ford Explorer Sport with almost 200k miles on it). It's because I have respect for others and don't want to mess up someone else's car.
I've been in the exact situation you were. I was driving down the street, and saw a man face-down on the sidewalk, with his arm sort of in the street. Obviously, no one stopped. I have no idea how long he'd been there. I immediately pulled into the first pull in I could (Discount Auto Parts), and ran over. I think it was alcoholism... but I am not really sure. He mumbled but didn't move. It was an older man. Regardless, I called 911 / the police. Waited a few minutes till the police came, and then I left... no sweat off my back. Small price to pay for just being in a community.
A couple of people did slow down and ask if I needed help... and I simply told them thank you, I didn't know what happened and called the police. So there are other people who are considerate. But most people are only concerned about themselves.
Living in South Florida, I also see people get creamed all the time by cars... usually jay-walkers being hit by people not paying attention and on their phone. One...a bicyclist who was cutting through traffic and the lady zooming in the turn lane took him out while she was looking at her phone. Another, a teenager who was driving through a parking lot mowed down an old lady who flipped up and over the car. Both times... everyone gasped and just stood there. I immediately sprung into action. Not a big deal... but other people were either too frozen with shock, or never considered helping.
Today, I don't stop for people on the side of the road anymore that I see with flat tires or car problems. I used to... but now that everyone has a cell phone, there's really no reason for me to do so. But if I see someone in distress, and I think I can even possibly be any help at all... I absolutely will stop. The only time I might not is if my wife and daughter are in the car and I think I might be putting them in harm.
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theogre
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APR 11, 12:57 AM
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A big issue is many places have weak or no laws protecting "Good Samaritans" and if you help then victim, family or estate often sues.
Otherwise if you help, cops often want you to wait, give data then and/or "call" later and you name etc can be publish by police and news and that can causes problems too.
If goes to court for Any reason can days to weeks to years and often you eat the time and money at minimum. US often doesn't have Death Inquests like in UK and some others that is often a Court Case but Example:
Either side of the aisle can use you as a witness and use 1 to several times as may appeal a case.
Victim passes out or worse then lose anything to everything on them and you try to help then victim/family often sues you and/or file complaint w/ cops saying you stole whatever.
Victim etc can say you made whatever problems Worse.
Victim is a Minor and anyone touches them can have big problems.
Family and Civil Courts works in Different Worlds then Police and Criminal Courts. So DA etc may not file Criminal Charges or even Award you for helping But still find yourself in front of Judges in those Courts.
If you get sued and win, your often out of pocket for lost wages, lawyers fees, and more.
Even getting Deposed or Call for a Witness months to years later often your losing time and money, maybe even losing your job for being out of work for days waiting in court. A lot of jobs Do Not care about any excuse for being out, Does Not pay sick or vacation time, etc. Some jobs may keep you but then get bad reviews for out of work so never get raises or target to layoff later...
When you think helping is Good... Sadly is often Not.
Many remember Richard Jewell and others that cops, FBI and MSM destroyed their lives after helping.------------------
Dr. Ian Malcolm: Yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should.
(Jurassic Park)
The Ogre's Fiero Cave
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cvxjet
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APR 11, 11:42 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
The impression I get of the "Bay area" is that you can't walk around the block without stepping over a wino or two. How bad is it really?
TDA, aren't you in or near the City?
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Believe it or not, "SF" only comprises a small part of the total Bay Area population; 700,000 out of 11 million....Most of the Bay Area is substantially more normal than the silliness that goes on in SF.....Even a lot of SF is (Relatively) normal.....But most SF residents don't like to talk about.........(berkeley)......Now there are some freaking weirdos......
I try to be as helpful as possible with people...Within the situation that DA was talking about, I would help depending on how the "Needy" looked and of course, considering children being with me. There are always people who get "Off Track"......It is especially easy if you partake of recreational...substances- Something I have never done.
I Grew up in suburbs, so my first couple of visits to "The City" were....interesting. And then there was visiting my great Uncle in WA on his farm......That was also a big eye-opener; I had told my Father "You are lucky you got to grow up on a farm!" And then, watching a guy pushing a bunch of sludge out of the way so Unc' could take delivery of his new cow..."What is all of that?" "Cow dung"........."Dad, you know how I said you were lucky to be on a farm- I was WRONG!"
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Blacktree
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APR 12, 11:27 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist:
Thanks, as dumb as it sounds, It helps to get some feedback about stuff.
Sometimes I THINK I 'm doing the right thing, but then I second guess myself, or over-think somethin' |
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You're conscientious, nothing wrong with that.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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APR 12, 05:55 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by theogre:
Victim passes out or worse then lose anything to everything on them and you try to help then victim/family often sues you and/or file complaint w/ cops saying you stole whatever.
Victim etc can say you made whatever problems Worse.
Victim is a Minor and anyone touches them can have big problems.
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Years ago, I found a purse that someone had ditched by my apartment complex. The contents were strewn all over the ground, so I picked them up. It appeared to me as though someone had likely stolen a purse from somewhere, parked in the parking lot, went through it, and dumped it all into the parking lot. I can't remember exactly what I did (it was almost 20 years ago), but I went through it looking for contact information. There was a drivers license, but I do remember calling the non-emergency police. Eventually, I left it at the leasing office of the apartment complex and left them my information.
The only thing I remember was that someone called me and asked if I had taken any money out of the purse. No thank you, or anything like that. I hadn't taken anything, and clearly that had all been taken out before I got there... I mean, I'm pretty sure that's the point of why the purse was stolen anyway. I mean, I didn't expect a reward or anything stupid for returning a purse, but I did expect that if I WAS going to get a call, it would be like... "Hey, thanks... I appreciate you bringing this in." Instead the call was accusatory, as if they thought I stole it and wanted to know what I was doing and how I came about getting it... (which I had clearly already explained to them... it was strewn all over the parking lot a few spots down from my apartment).
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williegoat
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APR 12, 07:25 PM
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"Walk on boy, walk on down the road.
Ain't nobody in this whole wide world
gonna help you carry your load" - Doc Watson
(I could watch the bass player all day long)
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