Feeling responsible, guilty or just plain stupid? (Page 3/6)
blackrams APR 09, 06:19 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

"I'll let you know when I get worried about it."




Hmm Well of the three options offered, that answer eliminates two of them.

Rams
Hudini APR 09, 06:34 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:


"I'll let you know when I get worried about it."




Of course you aren’t. Just keep the band playing.

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sourmash APR 09, 07:16 AM

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Originally posted by cliffw:


Why ?



Because it provokes people to respond.
sourmash APR 09, 07:26 AM
Choke off all immigration.
We have enough peasants. Robots are replacing humans in the work force so more peasants just serves the elite by forcing down wages.

No more dual citizens serving in government. They just push for foreign welfare and cheaper labor. Russia outlawed it because it's corrosive.
theBDub APR 09, 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by blackrams:


Your priorities are an indication of your youth. I'm not knocking your priorities, I simply believe they will change as you get further along in life.
An easier path to citizenship? That's a tough one for me to fully comprehend. It appears now that all you have to do it get across the border and wait.
That may be an exaggeration but, it's getting closer every day.

Rams



I said easier path to citizenship, not just a temporary work visa or something. It’s extremely difficult to become a US Citizen, with a lot of luck being required. IMO, it should be easier to be legal.
theBDub APR 09, 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by cliffw:


Why ?



I find it hard to reconcile believing in any real inalienable rights and then saying it’s really dependent on where you were born.

There is a lot of realism that dampens the idea. Clearly you couldn’t just open it up today with our existing entitlement programs. But if, theoretically, we didn’t have those enticing programs, there wouldn’t be much downside to opening the borders. Let people come in and participate in the economy more freely!
blackrams APR 09, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by theBDub:


I said easier path to citizenship, not just a temporary work visa or something. It’s extremely difficult to become a US Citizen, with a lot of luck being required. IMO, it should be easier to be legal.



Yep, I know what you said. And yet all those illegal aliens Non-Citizens are still eating up dollars, benefits and manpower assisting them that struggling Citizens could be using, all at the tax payer's expense. Or, taking jobs at lower wages and not paying taxes. It would seem there are many advantages to just crossing the open border and accepting all the "government" assistance now being provided (again, at our expense).

Rams
blackrams APR 09, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by theBDub:


I find it hard to reconcile believing in any real inalienable rights and then saying it’s really dependent on where you were born.

There is a lot of realism that dampens the idea. Clearly you couldn’t just open it up today with our existing entitlement programs. But if, theoretically, we didn’t have those enticing programs, there wouldn’t be much downside to opening the borders. Let people come in and participate in the economy more freely!




There is a process to legally immigrate into this country. It should be encouraged and enforced. Jumping to the front of the line is wrong whether it's at the movie theater or at the border.

Rams
2.5 APR 09, 11:41 AM

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Originally posted by theBDub:

we’d need to be a different nation.

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Disagree. But we could start enforcing current laws as a start.

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2.5 APR 09, 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by theBDub:

I find it hard to reconcile believing in any real inalienable rights and then saying it’s really dependent on where you were born.




Thats nice sounding but societies of people have different rules and beliefs, thats how they became different societies to begin with. As much as we would love all people to act like upstanding Americans do, its not that easy.

What do you think about citizenship, does it mean anything to you?