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blackrams
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MAR 28, 06:59 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I say let the Democrats do their "worst" (if that's your expectation) and then look to how the people vote after they've lived with it for awhile. Look to elections as the remedy.
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The problem with such a philosophy is that once the damage is done, it's almost impossible to repair it. As an example, look at our southern border now. It was almost under control now, illegal crossings are almost three times higher. Only one in three Border Patrol Agents is actually patrolling. The other two are baby sitting illegals. Yeah, that's progress and taking care of America. 
My guess is, those without children and/or grandchildren don't give a damn about the debt they are putting on those future generations.
Dems are damn good at spending other people's money.
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sourmash
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MAR 28, 07:55 PM
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The latter part, those without kids, are the people placed in top spots of European nations to lead them into death of European people. Just look at how many don't have kids.
As an aside, go to duckduckgo and type in "Chlamydia Harris", then click images.
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blackrams
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MAR 28, 08:06 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
As an aside, go to duckduckgo and type in "Chlamydia Harris", then click images. |
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I'd rather not, I'm not that curious.
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sourmash
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MAR 28, 08:38 PM
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First result is your first female POTUS.
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olejoedad
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MAR 29, 11:21 AM
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A little history on the filibuster:
"Among the falsehoods Joe Biden mouthed at his press conference yesterday was the claim that the Senate filibuster is “a relic of the Jim Crow era.” This line originated with Barack Obama. Biden said he agrees with Obama’s assertion.
As many have pointed out, Biden defended the Senate filibuster for decades. And Obama himself defended it when he was a Senator.
Thus Biden and Obama are both hypocrites.
To make matters worse, both are peddling a false claim. The Jim Crow era extends from the mid-1870s, following the abandonment of Reconstruction by President Hayes, to 1964, when landmark civil rights legislation finally was enacted.
The filibuster predates that era. It was used before the civil war and on issues unrelated to race. For example, Democrats employed the filibuster in 1841 when they opposed legislation to create a national bank. That same year, there was a filibuster over the firing of the Senate printers.
Four years earlier, Whigs had used the filibuster against Democrats who moved to expunge from the record a Senate resolution censoring Andrew Jackson.
In reality, the filibuster was very rarely used against civil rights legislation until near the end of the Jim Crow era. It wasn’t needed for that purpose because only in the late 1940s did Congress muster much enthusiasm for passing such legislation.
Arguably, the most significant use of the filibuster until at least the 1950s occurred in 1917 and had nothing to do with race. That year, a dozen antiwar senators, led by the progressive leader Robert La Follette, filibustered legislation to arm American merchant ships against German submarines. This filibuster led, understandably, to a rule authorizing cloture (the cutting off of debate) by a two-thirds vote.
There was, however, a notable and sickening use of the filibuster against civil rights legislation in the early 1920s. Republicans, at the urging of President Harding, sought to enact an anti-lynching law. Democrats filibustered. Harding eventually had the legislation pulled so that other items on his agenda could get a vote. (In those days, filibusters were of the talking variety and thus held up the Senate.)
The filibuster was used against anti-lynching legislation in the 1930s, as well.
Civil rights legislation was filibustered routinely, and largely without success, in the 1950s and early 1960s. However, it should be clear from the foregoing discussion that the filibuster is not a relic of the Jim Crow era.
In fact, the continued existence of the filibuster owes nothing to race. It persists so that parties can’t parlay thin majorities (or in the present circumstances, no Senate majority) into the enactment of sweeping, society-transforming legislation.
Imagine what Donald Trump could have accomplished in 2017, absent the filibuster. Note, as well, that all or most of it would have been reversed, absent the filibuster, this year."
https://www.powerlineblog.c...
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olejoedad
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MAR 29, 11:32 AM
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So, the answer to the question posed in the title of this thread, is definitively 'NO'.
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olejoedad
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MAR 29, 11:57 AM
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Ooopsie, double post! [This message has been edited by olejoedad (edited 03-29-2021).]
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olejoedad
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MAR 29, 06:30 PM
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rinselberg
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MAR 30, 01:48 PM
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OLLWT-palooza!
Last night, OLLWT and MSNBC anchor Lawrence O'Donnell conversed with the OLLWT of legend, Ezra Klein, about OLLWT and Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer's tortuous road map to passing a national infrastructure package using an unprecedented second Budget Reconciliation bill.
Budget Reconciliation, yet again, as the Senate Democrats' workaround to negate the 60-vote supermajority requirement for Cloture, or more colloquially, the "filibuster" rule. Budget Reconciliation as the way to pass the American Relief Act or "Coronavirus Relief" legislation that was the Biden administration's first legislative milestone. And now, Budget Reconciliation as the way to a national infrastructure package.
Ezra Klein: ‘I really wish Senators Manchin and Sinema would do their duty and make the Senate functional again’
| quote | | New York Times Opinion Columnist Ezra Klein joins Lawrence O’Donnell to discuss Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer exploring options to bypass the Senate’s 60-vote threshold and the obstacles to passing President Biden’s infrastructure package. |
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Video content 6 minutes 40 seconds; aired March 29, 2021 on MSNBC.
MSNBC website:
https://www.msnbc.com/the-l...l-again-109350469844
Alternatively, YouTube:
https://youtu.be/ef1eNdPGY24
OLLWT = Odious Little Left-Wing Troll[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 03-30-2021).]
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olejoedad
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MAR 30, 05:22 PM
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What is OLLWT?
Interesting how the Democrat Party is always looking for workarounds to circumvent procedures.
Are they too good to play by the rules, or is it that they think it's for them to cheat to win?[This message has been edited by olejoedad (edited 03-30-2021).]
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