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MidEngineManiac
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MAR 04, 09:11 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
1 - It is extremely arrogant, self-centered, and completely ridiculous that you think the entire world needs to adjust their habits because you don't want to get sick. You can buy hazmat suits through multiple vendors for you and your family if you decide you want to be super protective.
2 - People like YOU, have led to tens of thousands of suicides due to aggressive policies in shutting down the economy.
3 - People like YOU, have led to tens of millions of people losing their jobs due to aggressive policies in shutting down the economy.
4 - People like YOU, have led to 100s of thousands of people losing their businesses that they've worked their entire life to build, due to aggressive policies in shutting down the economy.
5 - People like YOU, have led to trillions and trillions of dollars in debt and economic destruction that we will never get back.
... all because you and your family are so arrogant, so self-centered, and so God-damned entitled that they don't want to be inconvenienced so they expect the ENTIRE rest of the world to adjust because you don't want to get sick. There's a lot that I would have to say about this, and about you, but I'll refrain.
I wear this retarded mast over my face like a pair of panties over a girl's vagina. I do it only because I'm forced to. I move to Florida in 2 months, and will be happy that I'll never have to wear a God-damned mask again. I've also gotten the vaccine, so the fact I still have to wear a mask here is because people LIKE YOU are so emotionally fragile, is not only un-American, it's Communist. I've not lost anyone to COVID, but I've lost 4 people I know to suicide. One of them took out their entire family with wife and kids... so that comes out to 8.
So take your holier than everyone else attitude and... I think you know the rest.
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It's the same mentality that gives us dietary restriction in schools and hospitals and cafeteria's. You have one or 2 with nut allergies so 1,000 or more are banned from eating nut butter. You have a small handful "offended" by pork products so nobody can have them.
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MidEngineManiac
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MAR 04, 11:51 AM
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maryjane
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MAR 04, 12:06 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by cliffw:
I take exception to that claim !
500,000 Kung Flu deaths, , ? Where did you get those numbers ? The government ?
This has been discussed on the forum. Believe what you will. We can't help you if you have not been a part of our debate, and the debate of your fellow Americans.
There are lies, damb lies, and statistics. Of that 500,000 made up deaths, which I think is half of that, how many committed Covid Suicide by they themselves not wearing masks. How many are persons who committed Covid Suicide by choosing to be unhealthy ?
250,000 out of 350 million, nothing percent wise for a virus with a 99% survival rate.
How selfish can you be ? To demand 99% of the population to bend to your will, so you might feel safer. |
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You are welcome to prove those case numbers wrong, with facts and data, or you can continue to cast unproven rhetoric and baseless insinuations.
That "99% survival rate" just sounds SOOO good until put into real context.
The true US population 332,304, 437.
99% survival rate means 3.32 million won't survive.
That is equivalent to 1/2 the population of either DFW or Houston, or all the population of San Antonio + another 1 million elsewhere.
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Rickady88GT
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MAR 04, 12:36 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Monkeyman:
I don't know where you're getting your information but you might try finding a source that actually knows what they're talking about. |
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He is more correct than you are giving him credit for.
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Hudini
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MAR 04, 07:49 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
1 - It is extremely arrogant, self-centered, and completely ridiculous that you think the entire world needs to adjust their habits because you don't want to get sick. You can buy hazmat suits through multiple vendors for you and your family if you decide you want to be super protective.
2 - People like YOU, have led to tens of thousands of suicides due to aggressive policies in shutting down the economy.
3 - People like YOU, have led to tens of millions of people losing their jobs due to aggressive policies in shutting down the economy.
4 - People like YOU, have led to 100s of thousands of people losing their businesses that they've worked their entire life to build, due to aggressive policies in shutting down the economy.
5 - People like YOU, have led to trillions and trillions of dollars in debt and economic destruction that we will never get back.
... all because you and your family are so arrogant, so self-centered, and so God-damned entitled that they don't want to be inconvenienced so they expect the ENTIRE rest of the world to adjust because you don't want to get sick. There's a lot that I would have to say about this, and about you, but I'll refrain.
I wear this retarded mast over my face like a pair of panties over a girl's vagina. I do it only because I'm forced to. I move to Florida in 2 months, and will be happy that I'll never have to wear a God-damned mask again. I've also gotten the vaccine, so the fact I still have to wear a mask here is because people LIKE YOU are so emotionally fragile, is not only un-American, it's Communist. I've not lost anyone to COVID, but I've lost 4 people I know to suicide. One of them took out their entire family with wife and kids... so that comes out to 8.
So take your holier than everyone else attitude and... I think you know the rest.
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Hear! Hear!
I think you are my pick for President.
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cliffw
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MAR 05, 06:58 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
You are welcome to prove those case numbers wrong, with facts and data, or you can continue to cast unproven rhetoric and baseless insinuations.
That "99% survival rate" just sounds SOOO good until put into real context.
The true US population 332,304, 437.
99% survival rate means 3.32 million won't survive.
That is equivalent to 1/2 the population of either DFW or Houston, or all the population of San Antonio + another 1 million elsewhere. |
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Shuuush, I tink I taaw a wabbit.
If I chase two rabbits, both will get away.
Unfortunately maryjane, the people painting the facts, data, lies, damn lies, and statistics do not paint the whole panorama. They only paint what they want you to see, but you know that.
The rabbit I am chasing will prove to you that burning old tires with whale oil endangers every living thing on the planet, perhaps the planet itself. There is a study for that,  .
Are you saying the survival rate is better than 99% ? I thought it was but did not know the exact number. We were told two million would be dead by now.
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rinselberg
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MAR 05, 08:20 AM
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Dr Peter Hotez is sounding an optimistic note about something that was published about a week ago in the New England Journal of Medicine.
The researchers looked at data from Israel that indicates that the Pfizer-BioNTech Covid-19 vaccine is very effective in preventing asymptomatic infections among vaccinated individuals.
It has been a concern that vaccines that have demonstrated effectiveness in preventing vaccinated individuals from becoming symptomatically ill from Covid would not stop "Covid Mary's"; i.e., vaccinated individuals becoming infected with Covid without experiencing any of the symptoms of Covid and unwittingly becoming carriers of Covid by infecting the unvaccinated people that they come into contact with.
In the words of the researchers:
| quote | | The estimated vaccine effectiveness for the asymptomatic infection proxy was 29% (95% CI, 17 to 39) during the period from 14 to 20 days after the first dose, 52% (95% CI, 41 to 60) 21 to 27 days after the first dose, and 90% (95% CI, 83 to 94) 7 or more days after the second dose (Table S3 and Fig. S5). |
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"CI" is for Confidence Interval.
"BNT162b2 mRNA Covid-19 Vaccine in a Nationwide Mass Vaccination Setting"
Dagan et al; New England Journal of Medicine; February 24, 2021.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/fu...featured_coronavirus
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MidEngineManiac
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MAR 05, 09:27 AM
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142 people died of covid in canada yesterday.. Sounds alarming right?
I think that's the goal to alarm us, because it is alarming.
It got me thinkng, what if they threw all kinds of numbers at us everyday, would covid still be the most popular on social media?
Perhaps.
MAYBE if we heard comparison numbers we would feel different?
Maybe...
Let's go over all these numbers, and be fair about it β‘
Covid Dec 11th 2020: 142 deaths yesterday... π
-4157suicides last year- averaging 11 per day π I never knew this number... mental health receives such little attention (the leading cause of death in our young people, the same young people we have socially restricted... Who's fighting for them ... π )
-over 80,000 people died of cancer last year in Canada... that's about 220 a day... π I didn't know that.... someone's mother, father, daughter, son π absolutley tragic ....
-I couldn't find how many people died of the flu, because from what I gather, flu isn't usually marked as cause of death... but if someone has the number, let's have a moment of silence for those lives... π
-276,689 died of heart disease that's more than 750 a day...WOW...if I heard that every day, I would probably eat more veggies and less deep fried goodness... this number is OUTRAGEOUS... and why arenβt we banning and boycotting places like MacDonalds, or outlawing cigarettes?
- 1500 killed and over 63,000 injured by drunk drivers each year in canada... that means 5 die a day and many more injured ..and we still sell alcohol... tell me again how much the government is concerned about your life π
- 6912 died from Alzheimer's ...that's 18 a day
-41,500 from diabetes...that's 113 a day.... and sugar is the #1 ingredient in our market place and yet no one is bombarding is with the health stats about sugar and its risks to your health
- about 57,000 a year die of stroke... about 156 each day
-almost 2 million jobs were lost in April from covid, and it appears over half of those are still unemployed, that would work out to an average of 5479 a day... that's a huge impact on the economy and a lot of mouths to feed...especially when our prime minister hikes up the carbon tax 467%.....
-5.6 million children die each year from hunger...that's 15,000 a day, approx 4 a minute.. and we close our eyes and ignore.
-206,905 died over the age of 70 in canada last year... that is a whooping 564 people each day ... WOW...
And to top it off...if you look at the deaths over the past 5 years in Canada , they all average about the same....in fact this fall has the least deaths over the past 5 years..... so tell me again how Covid is threatening to overwhelm us?
Media is a powerful player...we can't dismiss that perhaps a major bias is being spoonfed to us through their garbage propaganda.... π€ͺ yeah I said garbage, because that's exactly what it is...
My point is...we aren't bombarded with these numbers every day.....and if we were, we would all be shocked...
I didnt realize 500 elderly died each day... that is so sad...someone loved them.... β‘ and they matter too...
and currently those 500 a day are locked away, think about that... Every patriotic covid supporter...they are locking up our grandparents...our parents... That is abusive... absolultey abusive, in every sense of the word...
Ask grandma is she would like to see her kids, her grandkids... I will guarentee her answer will, statistically, be a resounding 'YES', with tears running down her face...Shame on our system ... You can't tell me this is ok...
So the argument that covid is contagious, is valid.. with a transmission rate of 1%, that means, if I sat with 100 people, 1 is probable to catch it, sure that's too many... but 99% will recover... so when you put it like that... how does shutting down the world make any sense?
The numbers posted above, get dismissed every single day...... and covid is controlling our every move... Controlling what we say... Controlling how close we stand to loved ones... Controlling who we see...
Who gave covid so much power... oh right the politicians... Who love us like we were their children?
You eat an apple that is sprayed, you fly in planes...you drive cars... you walk across the street, you eat peanuts out of the local pubs infested bowl... you get a little water from the river in your mouth and keep swimming...
We take risks everyday... I would rather die of covid surrounded by my family, than live isolated and alone ...
Statistically speaking you are 12x more likely to be murdered in the city of Calgary, than to be killed by this virus if you are under the age of 60....
More likely that you would be struck dead by lightening, than die under the age of 20...
Tell me again how this warrants a global shutdown?
Tell me again that something bigger isnβt driving this nonesense.
EVERY life...EVERY LIFE matters...
BUT we aren't concerned with all the toxic garbage on the supermarket shelves, which by the way is the #1 cause of heart disease & cancer....
When the government stops selling cigarettes, the leading cause of cancer, sugary cereals and cheetos, #1 cause of child obesity ...and MSG and Asparthame, that poison people, and all the dyes and preservatives our government approves for human consumption ... then we can talk about how they care about our health & well being ... β‘
Until then, I would rather be with my friends and family and take my chances with covid.....
This may be the biggest FRAUDULENT crime against humanity, the world has ever seen.
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rinselberg
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MAR 05, 07:35 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
142 people died of Covid in Canada yesterday.. Sounds alarming right? |
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How many are alive but suffering from "long" Covid--the long term debilitating effects for some people after their acute infection with Covid subsides?
Some of the victims of "long" Covid are children.
I wish it were easier to find credibly presented statistics of this kind online.
I am not here to "wipe out" all the other parts of what MidEngineManiac said in his message.
But I don't think it's as one-sided as the scenario he describes, ending with his assertion that Covid is the biggest fraud in history.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 03-05-2021).]
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MidEngineManiac
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MAR 05, 08:17 PM
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Jebus...frucking...christ...Roland
How man are suffering every day ? BECAUSE of this **** ...
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