The Justice for Black Farmers Act, Booker, Warren, Gillibrand (Page 3/4)
sourmash MAY 03, 08:49 AM

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In the age of identifying as anything you want, we can all be Black and get some gibs, right?
sourmash MAY 03, 08:53 AM

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A wise person once taught me that we still have a one drop norm, although a little different, now. It comes down to which box you check on forms, because there are clear and powerful benefits to claiming non-White status. If you can pass for partial non-White, you have a golden ticket in corporations, college and gov work.

Elizabeth 'Pocahontas' Warren did a similar con. But it's almost always the Obama situation con.



They still do it today, as done yesterday; Barack, Sally Heming, Kathryn Johnson, Shawn King. Not Black.

Elizabeth Warren took a little back from the Red man and showed us how.

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rinselberg MAY 28, 10:55 AM
Long article in The Atlantic. From 2019.

"The Great Land Robbery"

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The shameful story of how 1 million black families have been ripped from their farms


Focuses on Mississippi.

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This is not a story about TIAA—at least not primarily. The company’s newfound dominance in the region is merely the topsoil covering a history of loss and legally sanctioned theft in which TIAA played no part. But TIAA’s position is instrumental in understanding both how the crimes of Jim Crow have been laundered by time and how the legacy of ill-gotten gains has become a structural part of American life. The land was wrested first from Native Americans, by force. It was then cleared, watered, and made productive for intensive agriculture by the labor of enslaved Africans, who after Emancipation would come to own a portion of it. Later, through a variety of means—sometimes legal, often coercive, in many cases legal and coercive, occasionally violent—farmland owned by black people came into the hands of white people. It was aggregated into larger holdings, then aggregated again, eventually attracting the interest of Wall Street.

Owners of small farms everywhere, black and white alike, have long been buffeted by larger economic forces. But what happened to black landowners in the South, and particularly in the Delta, is distinct, and was propelled not only by economic change but also by white racism and local white power. A war waged by deed of title has dispossessed 98 percent of black agricultural landowners in America. They have lost 12 million acres over the past century. But even that statement falsely consigns the losses to long-ago history. In fact, the losses mostly occurred within living memory, from the 1950s onward. Today, except for a handful of farmers like the Scotts who have been able to keep or get back some land, black people in this most productive corner of the Deep South own almost nothing of the bounty under their feet.


"The Great Land Robbery"
Vann R. Newkirk II for The Atlantic; last updated, September 29, 2019.
https://www.theatlantic.com...was-our-land/594742/
sourmash MAY 28, 11:16 AM
Many people now see the propaganda written into theses pieces.

No known people are "native" American.
"Indian American" is more accurate, since all DNA traces to other parts of the globe.

Indian Americans displaced other groups in much of the continent. Human slavery was practiced. Human sacrifice was present. Human consumption was present.

When Whites migrated and displaced Indian Americans they brought the advantages of science, medicine, architecture, etc..
Indian Americans held Black slaves after Whites came. Some still reject tribe affiliation to African Americans. Others only recently accepted their African-American slaves as a tribal entity, as the Cherokee did in 2015. The Cherokee displaced others when they migrated to the South.

Pieces have illustrated that Africans brought to the Americas escaped some of the perils of famine, war, etc., that was left in Africa. Some African-Americans attained top 1% wealth status in America even in the 1800s. One that comes to mind did it through African slavery, owning, breeding and trading African-Americans. He selected a White woman for his wife.

400,000 Africans have become 40 million in the USA.

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rinselberg MAY 28, 11:29 AM
Does that contradict the article that I just posted, from The Atlantic? Or undermine the article's significance or "truthiness"..?

It's a long article. I have not read hardly any of it, beyond what I duplicated. I don't know whether the article is prescriptive in any way, suggesting that "this" or "that" should be done about it, or if it simply chronicles the history.

I thought, more than anything else, that it might be something that maryjane would like to look at. If not the article itself, the very small part of it that I duplicated here.

Seeing that he is the one that created this forum topic.

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rinselberg MAY 28, 11:43 AM

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Owners of small farms everywhere, black and white alike, have long been buffeted by larger economic forces. But what happened to black landowners in the South, and particularly in the Delta, is distinct, and was propelled not only by economic change but also by white racism and local white power. A war waged by deed of title has dispossessed 98 percent of black agricultural landowners in America. They have lost 12 million acres over the past century. But even that statement falsely consigns the losses to long-ago history. In fact, the losses mostly occurred within living memory, from the 1950s onward. Today, except for a handful of farmers like the Scotts who have been able to keep or get back some land, black people in this most productive corner of the Deep South own almost nothing of the bounty under their feet.
sourmash MAY 28, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Does that contradict the article that I just posted, from The Atlantic? Or undermine the article's significance or "truthiness"..?

It's a long article. I have not read hardly any of it, beyond what I duplicated. I don't know whether the article is prescriptive in any way, suggesting that "this" or "that" should be done about it, or if it simply chronicles the history.

I thought, more than anything else, that it might be something that maryjane would like to look at. If not the article itself, the very small part of it that I duplicated here.

Seeing that he is the one that created this forum topic.




If only maryjane was the target invited, you could've sent a private message.

I'll explain it again just for you, because it's already in my previous statement.

The propaganda and dishonest narratives written into pieces like that are an attempt to indoctrinate society that Indian Americans aren't immigrants, didn't displace others, didn't enslave others, sacrifice or consume others, that Blacks aren't discriminated in the modern era by Indian-American tribes, that African-Americans didn't enslave others, didn't benefit from their environment and White culture.

My post is dismantling the disingenuous subtext and exposing the propaganda. It's written like most narratives, with a leftist bent aimed at blaming what group?

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2.5 MAY 28, 12:34 PM
History repeats itself.
rinselberg MAY 28, 02:30 PM

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If only maryjane was the target invited, you could [have] sent a private message. . . .


That (PM) wouldn't be the experience that I want to create for myself with this article from The Atlantic.

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sourmash MAY 28, 04:06 PM
I don't suppose your.desures have any worth to anyone else, since the rest of us have our wishes.