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sourmash
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JAN 18, 08:07 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
HRC or Pelosi running.............................
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Well, the wording was wrong. He won this time but isn't going to be President. It'll just happen again.
The republic has been overthrown.
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rinselberg
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JAN 18, 09:12 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
Many of the talking heads work under the premise of 'If we say it enough times people will believe it's the truth'. It's been used successfully for the last century. It worked very well in Europe in the 1930's........ |
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OMG! OMG! Europe in the 1930s. I so completely forgot about that.
Do you actually have anything to say about the specific issue that I raised, involving the invocation of a pardon to immunize someone against the possibility of prosecution, and whether that would nullify that same someone's right to claim Fifth Amendment protection against being compelled to testify?
I know that if I wanted to look, I could find online references to establish that this is not an idea that I have made up myself out of whole cloth.
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Would you like to volunteer any thoughts about the sagacity of the previous message that introduced this image into these "proceedings"..?[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-18-2021).]
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olejoedad
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JAN 18, 09:50 AM
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rinselberg
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JAN 18, 12:14 PM
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Fair enough.
Pardons should come with a Legal Interaction Warning:
| quote | | This Pardon is a Self-Incrimination Agonist. Using this Pardon to immunize yourself against the possibility of prosecution may expose you to the possibility of being compelled to testify under penalty of perjury. Do not use this Pardon without consulting with a criminal defense attorney at law. |
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I am surprised that anyone would take umbrage at my remarks in this vein, since they are not remarks about President Trump, per se.
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The message that introduced this image into these proceedings is prima facie evidence of a defendant who is overcome with an irrational and unjustified umbrage at my remarks.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-18-2021).]
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olejoedad
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JAN 18, 01:08 PM
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You assume my comments were about pardons.
I was referring to 'talking heads' and their special brand of information sharing.
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blackrams
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JAN 18, 02:09 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
You assume my comments were about pardons.
I was referring to 'talking heads' and their special brand of information sharing. |
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Dang, even I understood or interpreted it correctly.......... 
But then, the air I breath has a normal level of oxygen. 
Rams
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rinselberg
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JAN 18, 02:43 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
You assume my comments were about pardons.
I was referring to 'talking heads' and their special brand of information sharing. |
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I understood that you were talking about "talking heads."
I've been talking about pardons.
You seem to have taken umbrage at my reference to umbrage, as if I were saying that you had taken umbrage. But that was not what I meant. I was saying that someone else had taken umbrage.
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The forum member that first introduced this image into the proceedings wasn't talking about anything at all.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 01-18-2021).]
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olejoedad
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JAN 18, 02:49 PM
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I suspect that you have had experience with one sided conversations.
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Jonesy
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JAN 18, 06:15 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
The problem is that if Trump pardons himself, the left will proclaim that as an admission of guilt. They will never leave him be, even long after he has shuffled off this mortal coil.
He came so close to dismantling their dastardly dominion, and still may. They cannot allow that to happen.
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I don't believe the Democrats would have to say it was an admission of guilt, im pretty sure that anyone given a presidential pardon, accepting the pardon itself, through the eyes of the supreme court, is an admission of guilt of whatever crime they got pardoned for. So it would still go on record as "guilty of whatever".. Just that they got pardoned for it.
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cvxjet
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JAN 18, 06:32 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
Not sure how he could ever win an election if he ran? Most of the voters in polls have the opinion he won this one. |
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This just shows that inability of the TRUMP!!! "Conservatives" to see the truth; Trump was put in power by Putin, and trump made an absolute azz of himself, talking like a little banana-republic dictator while firing anyone who had the temerity to question anything he said or did....
The country turned against him after 300,000 American citizens died due to his "Covid-covid-covid...It will all be gone after the election" idiocy...
But you still believe that EIGHTY Per-CENT of America LOVES the great Trumper.........Even after he tried to over-throw the election....
Trump = Petty little dictator who wrecked America and cost hundreds of thousands of lives....Wake UP!
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