Banning of Conservatives on Social Media (Page 3/13)
MidEngineManiac JAN 10, 11:42 PM
It might take a little time but conservative "social media" will just re-form itself with offshore servers the same way the online gambling sites did. I'm already using Me-We more than Facebook for selling stuff just to get around the censors.
sourmash JAN 10, 11:42 PM
The end? It's probably near the end of the current economic setup. There's already another one being worked up and the USD will be a part of it. Something else will be there in it's place.
The erosion of rights, freedoms and privileges will march onward. I just listened to a Zappa interview from 6-19-1989 Arsenio Hall and the parental advisory warnings debate. He said his stuff wasn't under fire but sticking up for the other artists who were under fire is what people should be doing, like he was doing. Awkward interview, but there was a reason for that.
randye JAN 11, 02:03 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:


I've heard that Sooo many times in my life thru different ordeals and eras and yet, here we all STILL are.
Odd, how each generation thinks they are going thru something completely new and they alone have the answers.



Perspective.

Those of us that have been around long enough tend to have a bit more of it.

President Ronald Reagan, arguably the father of modern conservative politics*, was elected to office long before Bookface, Twatter or any kind of social media and before 24 / 7/ 365 cable news media was so prevalent.

* I intentionally said "modern conservative politics" because conservative ideology has been around far longer than modern conservative politics.

Oppressive governments throughout history have tried to abolish competitive speech and ideas, all have failed and it has been my observation that the harder they try, the harder they fail.

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blackrams JAN 11, 05:33 AM

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

It might take a little time but conservative "social media" will just re-form itself with offshore servers the same way the online gambling sites did. I'm already using Me-We more than Facebook for selling stuff just to get around the censors.



Well, apparently Parler is no longer an option, just read that Amazon shut them down.
Why am I feeling like that frog in the pan of boiling water? It seems the heat keeps getting turned up. Probably just my imagination, ya think?

Rams

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Hudini JAN 11, 07:58 AM
This is a business opportunity. If Twitter and FB think 75 million people are to be shut down they will be shoved towards My Space relevance soon enough. How long before a Rupert Murdoch type starts up a competitor?
cliffw JAN 11, 08:08 AM

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Originally posted by blackrams:
Why am I feeling like that frog in the pan of boiling water? It seems the heat keeps getting turned up. Probably just my imagination, ya think?



Perhaps you should think outside the box, . Get out of the pan.
Hudini JAN 11, 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
This is not at all a view that is consistent with anything I've seen. I would say Facebook as remained relatively neutral, but Twitter has very candidly been far left radical. If you're telling me you think Twitter has been neutral, then I think you perhaps do not know who Jack Dorsey is?



If you view this against his ideas then it makes sense. His views are far left. Therefore, a moderate approach as FB has had is viewed as being right because it’s right of his views. Dorsey and his company seem middle of the road because they are in the middle of his road which is far left of the traditional views. IMHO
82-T/A [At Work] JAN 11, 09:11 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

I've heard that Sooo many times in my life thru different ordeals and eras and yet, here we all STILL are.
Odd, how each generation thinks they are going thru something completely new and they alone have the answers.




MJ, if I'm using your logic in the way that I think you're suggesting... then the Revolutionary War would never have happened, and Rome would never have fallen.

My perspective is that we're only a generation away from losing this country... we always are. While I'm sure the bad people will always end up losing... I'm not willing to let the US be sacrificed as another example of how liberalism destroys countries so we learn (yet again) that liberalism doesn't work.



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Originally posted by Hudini:

If you view this against his ideas then it makes sense. His views are far left. Therefore, a moderate approach as FB has had is viewed as being right because it’s right of his views. Dorsey and his company seem middle of the road because they are in the middle of his road which is far left of the traditional views. IMHO



Sure... this was in my head the entire time I was talking with him. I just don't understand how someone could be so delusional. I fully recognize that I am very right-leaning. But what is left and right has changed dramatically over the years. I'm much more left leaning than Bill Clinton was when I voted for him... but that I am more left than Bill Clinton means that I am far more right than the current leftist party. I'm fully aware that Fox News has a far right bias (though the new owners are changing that). I'm also aware that OAN has a far right bias, or the EPOCH times, etc. But how someone else could be so oblivious of their own perceptions is beyond me.
Wichita JAN 11, 09:13 AM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

The end? It's probably near the end of the current economic setup. There's already another one being worked up and the USD will be a part of it. Something else will be there in it's place.
The erosion of rights, freedoms and privileges will march onward. I just listened to a Zappa interview from 6-19-1989 Arsenio Hall and the parental advisory warnings debate. He said his stuff wasn't under fire but sticking up for the other artists who were under fire is what people should be doing, like he was doing. Awkward interview, but there was a reason for that.



Interesting to know that the "Parental Advisory Warning" was pushed by Democrats and spearheaded by none other than Al & Tipper Gore.

In other words:

DEVELOPING: Democrats in both the House and Senate are planning to draft legislation to classify MAGA rallies as "domestic terrorist activity" and require the FBI, DOJ & DHS to take steps to prevent such "domestic terrorism." Sen. Durbin is leading effort along with Rep Schneider


Strange that MAGA will be classified as domestic terrorist, but not Antifia?

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maryjane JAN 11, 09:37 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

I've heard that Sooo many times in my life thru different ordeals and eras and yet, here we all STILL are.
Odd, how each generation thinks they are going thru something completely new and they alone have the answers.




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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:


MJ, if I'm using your logic in the way that I think you're suggesting... then the Revolutionary War would never have happened, and Rome would never have fallen.


I'm old, but not that old. Those 2 events didn't happen in my lifetime.


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My perspective is that we're only a generation away from losing this country... we always are. While I'm sure the bad people will always end up losing... I'm not willing to let the US be sacrificed as another example of how liberalism destroys countries so we learn (yet again) that liberalism doesn't work..


Can be less than a generation but I take issue with the phrase 'losing this country'.

Even tho I believe this nation and it's democracy is still very much in infancy, I also believe we are no where near close to our Constantinople moment tho one would think (we are so) considering all the sword keyboard rattling that has been going on for the last few months.

I am also surprised at all the dismay. Many people screamed for the Covid19 to be out of the headlines. They got their wish, but not in the way they had hoped for. Impeachment pt 2 is likely to now take center stage, tho the sickness and deaths will continue.

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