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| Stimulus Check - Do you NEED yours? Should it go to someone who does? (Page 3/5) |
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Jake_Dragon
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DEC 26, 05:08 PM
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Having spent 4 months with a large group of Pakistan's in the late 80s I don't know how they could get confused.
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RWDPLZ
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DEC 26, 05:45 PM
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Need? No, but I wouldn't mind a small tax refund for the tens of thousands they steal from me every year. But I probably made too much money last year to qualify, like the last one.
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steve308
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DEC 26, 06:44 PM
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I don't need it but if the government is going to give away my past, present and future tax dollars I want it back in my account. I do think that those who cheated the system (like the governor of California) and other politicians, should be compelled to return ever red cent they stole and then be locked up.
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Jake_Dragon
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DEC 26, 07:34 PM
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Study harder, lets get this thing passed
If I do get a check, wont believe it till I see it the money will go into savings.
I may not need it today but perhaps one day soon.[This message has been edited by Jake_Dragon (edited 12-27-2020).]
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Fieros_Forever
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DEC 29, 06:52 PM
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I don’t think that I would be automatically eligible for this one to just be sent with no action from me, as I haven’t filed income taxes since 2018 when I retired. I was one of the many victims of the state of Brick-And-Mortar retail where some make it and some don’t. When my Sears shuttered in January of 2018, I just retired. It’s everybody’s dream to retire at 50, anyway. I loved that part of the dream, just not by choice. I loved my job.
I suppose that I would be eligible for this one, but would have to go and do the form for non-filers, and if that is the case and the payout stays at $600.00, I’m not going to waste my time filling out a form for that paltry amount. It’s not worth my time. They can keep it.
Now for the $2,000, I would. But I don’t see that coming to fruition.
-FF
1986 Fiero 2m6
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blackrams
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DEC 29, 07:06 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by randye:
Since you obviously realize that the gooberment is simply "giving" you your own money back, and unless you somehow believe in that same gooberment's sudden magic ability to determine who needs your money more than you, (surprise! they can't), I'd say the best course of action is for you to accept your "refund" and then YOU DECIDE who you believe needs it most.
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This I agree with.
Would I like more money or like to pay less in taxes, who wouldn't. Reference this money, I've got a friend who is financially suffering due to the current "situation". Since I'm going to receive a Stimulus Check, I'm using that to Stimulate a project that he can work on. I need this project done and he has the skills to get it done. So, while he's off from his "normal" occupation, he'll be working on something for me. Seems like a Win/Win to me. Would I just give it to someone, doubtful (although, I have bought a few hungry folks a meal from time to time). Would I donate to some cause I thought highly of, that's always a possibility. I have a couple of charities I regularly donate to.
But, the point is, this money is to stimulate the economy, so put someone to work with it. I know too many folks that could be working but, would rather live off the government teat.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 12-29-2020).]
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randye
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DEC 29, 09:52 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
I've got a friend who is financially suffering due to the current "situation". Since I'm going to receive a Stimulus Check, I'm using that to Stimulate a project that he can work on. I need this project done and he has the skills to get it done. So, while he's off from his "normal" occupation, he'll be working on something for me. Seems like a Win/Win to me.
Rams
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YUP.
That's way you do it. That's a Win-Win
The gooberment could never arrive at that kind of equitable arrangement because, no matter what they do, they never know how to manage your money better than you do.
Economist Milton Friedman once explained the example that there is a very definite hierarchy of how you manage money depending on your personal economic involvement.
The gooberment is always spending other people's money on other people and consequently responsibility with that money never enters into the equation.[This message has been edited by randye (edited 12-29-2020).]
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sourmash
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DEC 29, 09:59 PM
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It's very simple. The more debt, the more interest for the global bankers. They're pushing the spending agenda. Simple.
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MidEngineManiac
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DEC 29, 10:21 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
Universal Basic Income.
Makes more sense with each passing day. As the realties that actually emerge seem to make less sense with each passing day.
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I started to agree (at least for Canada) about 2 years ago when numbers started getting crunched and published, it turns out a UBI is actually cheaper (saves me tax dollars) than the current royal screw-up hodge-podge of social programs.
Will it change anyting long-term ? No, socialism always fails. It will simply cause inflation and drive the prices for everything higher simply because the money supply is larger. Short-term (10-20 years) it might buy enough time to fix some serious problems.
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GTGeff
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DEC 30, 01:16 PM
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A/B
I lost my job of twenty-four years in September. I and 108 people got the axe this day. COVID was the final nail as the company had financial issues for the last several years. The company had just been purchased by a foreign company. We were classified as an essential business as a lot of our customer base is considered essential. Unfortunately, a large part of our customer base was not essential so business and thereby receivables were half of what was needed to break even monthly.
We do not need it as my wife continues to work from home and I am carried on her health insurance. Our home is paid for and we have no debt other than monthly bills. I am close to retirement but not ready to pull the trigger. My weekly un-employment, which I paid into for forty-eight years, is about equal to what my working take home pay was. (I was deducting large amounts into my 401K.) I will use the extra money to fund retirement options that I have not been doing since termination or fund ongoing home improvement / repair projects going before retirement. (Money will be put back into the economy.) At least we get to decide where the money goes and maybe get a good meal from a restaurant in the process.
So, we are not hurting but will put the extra money to good use including charitable causes. Are you guys aware the first COVID bill allows you to make up to $300.00 in charitable donations without having to itemize? It comes right off your gross income. My son is taking advantage of this on his taxes.
A side note to those who said they did not get the first stimulus check. I serve as guardian to my older brother who is in a nursing due to dementia. He has not filed income tax in at least ten years. His only income is Social Security and a very small monthly pension check. He got the first stimulus check which created a lot issues by the state he lives in as it put his total assets over the allowable limit.
Jeff
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