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Patrick DEC 23, 03:42 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

People looking for perfection in religion won't find it on this Earth. There are many storms, obstacles, and inequities placed in front of us to test faith. Seeing the poor is but one of them.



Being the poor (and sick and destitute, etc) is what really sucks.


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Originally posted by maryjane:

(Donald) John (Trump) 12:8

There will always be the poor among us. (paraphrased)



Works out well for the ultra wealthy to keep it that way. Always a ready supply of desperate people who will work for peanuts.

[EDIT] I had added the words (Donald) and (Trump) to the above quote.

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2.5 DEC 23, 04:38 PM
Humans issue is many times choosing places where they wish God would step in and others where they wish he would stay out.

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maryjane DEC 24, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by Patrick:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by maryjane:

People looking for perfection in religion won't find it on this Earth. There are many storms, obstacles, and inequities placed in front of us to test faith. Seeing the poor is but one of them.



Being the poor (and sick and destitute, etc) is what really sucks.


quote
Originally posted by maryjane:

(Donald) John (Trump) 12:8

There will always be the poor among us. (paraphrased)


Works out well for the ultra wealthy to keep it that way. Always a ready supply of desperate people who will work for peanuts.


Works out well for the ultra wealthy to keep it that way. Always a ready supply of desperate people who will work for peanuts.



I did NOT post that.
sourmash DEC 24, 11:20 AM
The poor? A wise man once said, "...the world needs ditch diggers, too."
He also said,
Jake_Dragon DEC 24, 11:37 AM
You don't know what you don't know. You can be fat dumb and happy or just angry that you were born the way you are.
I have been poor, didn't like it. Not dirt poor but close enough. Still not good with money but doing better.

Something more than what we are? Even if this is all that it is, why would you care if someone chooses to believe and is not harming you with that belief why would you care?
end of the day we are all here on this rock, perhaps just part of some grand experiment or just some mistake that hasn't been cleaned up yet.

Like waking from a dream where you understand all of it and then it slips away, you are no worse for not knowing. Have faith and take a nap perhaps you will understand.
Perhaps some of us never wake up and are still trying to figure it all out. The biggest hurdle is people, its hard to trust when you have seen what comes of that trust.

Today lets just be happy, I would say hug your family but that is probably difficult. Just don't let them wonder that you care about them.
williegoat DEC 24, 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

You don't know what you don't know. You can be fat dumb and happy or just angry that you were born the way you are.
I have been poor, didn't like it. Not dirt poor but close enough. Still not good with money but doing better.

Something more than what we are? Even if this is all that it is, why would you care if someone chooses to believe and is not harming you with that belief why would you care?
end of the day we are all here on this rock, perhaps just part of some grand experiment or just some mistake that hasn't been cleaned up yet.

Like waking from a dream where you understand all of it and then it slips away, you are no worse for not knowing. Have faith and take a nap perhaps you will understand.
Perhaps some of us never wake up and are still trying to figure it all out. The biggest hurdle is people, its hard to trust when you have seen what comes of that trust.

Today lets just be happy, I would say hug your family but that is probably difficult. Just don't let them wonder that you care about them.


Some of the pictures you post are irrefutable proof that there is a God (and a devil)
Jake_Dragon DEC 24, 01:05 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

Some of the pictures you post are irrefutable proof that there is a God (and a devil)



Or happy accident.
Patrick DEC 24, 02:34 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

I did NOT post that.



Sorry Don, I meant no harm. I thought it would be more than obvious what I had added (especially since the quoted post immediately preceded mine), but for anyone who may be unclear, here's your original post followed by my slight alteration (done solely in jest).


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Originally posted by maryjane:

John 12:8

There will always be the poor among us. (paraphrased)





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Edited post by Patrick:

(Donald) John (Trump) 12:8

There will always be the poor among us. (paraphrased)




Although the change was done in a lighthearted manner, if it displeases/annoys you, I apologize.

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TheDigitalAlchemist DEC 24, 02:50 PM
Creator? Maybe.

Is it actually the head huncho of any the current religions? Doubtful.

Maybe the Deity worshipped by the Selarians from Dexlar-7 is the “one, true God” but I doubt that also, since “Morbo the Awesomness”was modeled after Obrom, worshiped by their relatives who used to inhabit sister planet Dexlar-6.

But we do like to cling to our cute little faiths, don’t we?

*stares blankly at the black mirror and scryes*

-Dr. Ignorant Hugh Dickly
cvxjet DEC 24, 07:46 PM
I may get rocks thrown at me but here is my thoughts on this subject......

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I was raised basically believing I was an atheist.....But after I joined the Navy I re-evaluated this belief.

First, while I was on the USS Coral Sea, I started associating with some Mormons; I wasn't a drinker or partier, so while in Subic bay, PI, I went skin diving around Grande Island...Riding out on the boat one time I noticed another sailor who had fins and a mask....So we decided to swim together for safety.

He and his friends aboard the 'Sea were Mormons... In Olongapo, which back in 79-80 was "Sin City, Orient" (you could get TWO girls to do ANYTHING for $10) I ended up going to a Church social and playing musical chairs! The main thing that impressed me was that they were very penitent- true to their beliefs. When I was a teenager my Dad's friend had four daughters I was FORCED to go boating with (A rough job but...) They were all Catholic.....They would party Friday and Saturday night and then come Sunday morning dress in white sweaters and sit in church asking for forgiveness.....That seemed kind of Hypocritical.

Later, while working at NAS Alameda as a civilian one of my fellow aircraft mechanics was a preacher. We had a lot of discussions about religion- I was especially curious about the whole 6000 years vs 15 Billion years argument. After a bit of thinking (Do you smell smoke?) I came up with some theories that eliminate this argument;

1) When you say "the world was created 6000 years ago by God" Who's years are you talking about? Human years or God's years? Anyone who knows about the orbits of the planets knows that planets have years based on their orbital period....Earth (Human) years are 365 days long (Approx') but Jupiter's years are 4380 (Earth) days long, and Pluto's year is 248 times as long as Earth's year. What exactly is a YEAR to God?

2) Take your favorite movie- Say "The World's Fastest Indian"...Did it start with the BIRTH of the main character? Or with him buying his Indian? No, it started with him planning a big trip to the US and Bonneville....All of that previous time was a given.
So.....Did God create the universe 6000 years ago with a past that we would see and interpret?

3) And a modification of #2; Is God actually Limited to TIME like we are? Maybe he doesn't have to follow a clock...He created the Universe, past, present and Future all at once......

The first scientists were preachers and other religious people- they were interested in the world that God created. The 6000 year thing can be traced to a religious leader in the 1600s who decided that the "Whereas's" in the Bible were each representative of a year- he carefully counted those "Whereas's" and came up with the number 6000. So that number is not actually IN the bible- it is one man's theory.

As for Atheists, I think they are fools; They believe in the scientific method which states; 1) Come up with a theory, 2) Come up with ways of testing the theory, 3) Test and 4) Confirm FACT. Atheists claim God doesn't exist but LACK of proof does not prove he doesn't exist!
Where have they ever proven that God doesn't exist? The only thing Science can do is prove that God is infinitely more subtle than we have thought him to be; He did not wave a wand and create the universe...Instead, he set each particle of each atom in the whole universe in motion with the proper energy which led to Earth and all of the universe. That is far more impressive!