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MidEngineManiac
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NOV 29, 08:42 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
Another vaccine, mandatory or not, will be a huge payoff from the corporations producing them.
Lobbying groups have been very successful at vacuuming large amounts of money from the taxpayer by using .gov as an enforcer. Look all the way back to the milk lobby that got government to buy all that milk "for the children" in public schools. Corporations love welfare benefits for the poor. The more of them getting 'free' money then the more they collect from the poor for services/products. |
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YUP !!!!!
Somebody I used to know tried that this past summer...joined the "miles for meals" charity trying to raise 100k for school lunches. Just neglected to tell anyone they own the company vending the box lunches ! THEN tried to cover it up when they got called on it. 
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Rickady88GT
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NOV 29, 08:59 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
Another vaccine, mandatory or not, will be a huge payoff from the corporations producing them.
Lobbying groups have been very successful at vacuuming large amounts of money from the taxpayer by using .gov as an enforcer. Look all the way back to the milk lobby that got government to buy all that milk "for the children" in public schools. Corporations love welfare benefits for the poor. The more of them getting 'free' money then the more they collect from the poor for services/products. |
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I understand the possibility of corruption, but my opinion is based on forcing medical treatment on people against their will including their children.
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rinselberg
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NOV 29, 09:04 PM
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There are two Covid vaccines that I expect to see available in the U.S. before any of the others that are in the pipeline. One from Pfizer and the other from Moderna. These are vaccines of a kind that have never been used before or at least, not used in any big way, on humans. They're called mRNA (messenger RNA) vaccines.
But mRNA vaccines were already being used for the vaccination of livestock, for some years before Covid-19 came along. So the developers of these mRNA-type Covid vaccines did not really start from scratch and do it all in the (roughly) current year of 2020 when Operation Warp Speed got underway. They had a head start. They already knew a lot about mRNA vaccine methodology. During Operation Warp Speed--or Year 2020 as some odd people might prefer--they were able to customize their already existing mRNA vaccine know-how for Covid-19 by using the complete genetic blueprint of the SARS-CoV- 2 virus, a blueprint that was the result of analytical work done in China and then published for the entire world to see, back in January.
I'd rather take my chances with the vaccine than without it. I think I would feel exactly the same way, even if I were closer in time to that magic day when I retired from a nine-month stint in the perennially active Fetus'ing sector. "Womb'ing it," as they sometimes like to say.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-29-2020).]
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sourmash
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NOV 29, 09:18 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
I understand the possibility of corruption, but my opinion is based on forcing medical treatment on people against their will including their children. |
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I think they're hand in hand. The corruption also doesn't even have to be for monetary benefit. For instance, the Obamacare mandate. Predictions are that it was meant to fail to cause another outcome where government is the only means of healthcare coverage.
I'm watching Michael Chertoff on TV right now. Empires of New York on CNBC. He's the one who mandated imaging machines in airports while holding a cabinet position for Bush. Then he went to work for the company producing the machines that are sold to the airports. He also claimed he never heard of Benjamin Chertoff who wrote 911: Debunking the Myths. Then Michael Chertoff's mother is on video saying, "Oh yes, he (Benjamin) used to come to our house on holidays to eat dinner with his family." He's Michael's cousin.
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maryjane
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NOV 29, 11:52 PM
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maryjane
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NOV 30, 12:58 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
There are two Covid vaccines that I expect to see available in the U.S. before any of the others that are in the pipeline. One from Pfizer and the other from Moderna. These are vaccines of a kind that have never been used before or at least, not used in any big way, on humans. They're called mRNA (messenger RNA) vaccines.
But mRNA vaccines were already being used for the vaccination of livestock, for some years before Covid-19 came along. So the developers of these mRNA-type Covid vaccines did not really start from scratch and do it all in the (roughly) current year of 2020 when Operation Warp Speed got underway. They had a head start. They already knew a lot about mRNA vaccine methodology. During Operation Warp Speed--or Year 2020 as some odd people might prefer--they were able to customize their already existing mRNA vaccine know-how for Covid-19 by using the complete genetic blueprint of the SARS-CoV- 2 virus, a blueprint that was the result of analytical work done in China and then published for the entire world to see, back in January.
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The Bovine coronavirus vaccine has been around for at least 3 decades. I was using them in the early 80s if memory serves me correctly.
Zoetis and merk are the 2 big producers but the patent is expired and there are 'generic' and licensed to 3rd party versions, including a relatively new one that is intranasal.
These animal vaccines come in both 'killed' and 'modified live' versions.
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OH10fiero
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NOV 30, 06:07 AM
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It's comical that so many people are predisposed to not get a vaccine because of fear they will be micro chipped yet many of them will stand for hours waiting in line to give hundreds of hard earned dollars to buy the latest smartphone so they can post 30 times a day all the places they go to on social media which uses a GPS to give the current location.
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Rickady88GT
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NOV 30, 07:26 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by OH10fiero:
It's comical that so many people are predisposed to not get a vaccine because of fear they will be micro chipped yet many of them will stand for hours waiting in line to give hundreds of hard earned dollars to buy the latest smartphone so they can post 30 times a day all the places they go to on social media which uses a GPS to give the current location. |
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Thats a broad brush. I am not a conspiracy guy, but in general, the conspiracy people tend to be paranoid about technology?
Anyways, the chip thing has been around as long as chips first made the news. In my opinion it is more of a misinterpretation of the Bible than conspiracy.
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MidEngineManiac
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NOV 30, 08:21 AM
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Color me guilty of that...I need a smartphone to function in the work-world, but its never "with" me. Stays on my desk, or if I have to take it in the truck. Never my pocket.
Yup, because of the tracking. Where I am going is nobody's damn business but mine.[This message has been edited by MidEngineManiac (edited 11-30-2020).]
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maryjane
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NOV 30, 09:38 AM
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Except there is no tracking involved with the Covid19 vaccines.
It's a childish myth made up by stupid people.
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