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rinselberg
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NOV 29, 11:09 AM
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Bombings, and bombings of Shia mosques in particular, are just a part of a far larger and far more labyrinthine mosaic of religious and civil conflict that has engulfed a large swathe of the world's Muslim population and has now reached almost every corner of the globe (with the possible exception of Antarctica.)
As I was "mullah'ing" [sic] the idea making another "play" in this thread, I stumbled upon the section for Iran within the International Religious Freedom Report for 2019 from the U.S. Department of State.
It's quite a "read." It starts with an Executive Summary that looks like an example from any sensible writer's guide book about how to not use paragraphs to enhance readability. I doubt that it passes any competent muster as an acceptable Executive Summary. It doesn't look at all "summary." Quite the opposite. A virtual labyrinth of atomic level detail, all in the very first paragraph, which seems to run on without end.
The first sentence:
quote | The constitution defines the country [Iran] as an Islamic republic and specifies Twelver Ja’afari Shia Islam as the official state religion. |
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FWIW https://www.state.gov/wp-co...S-FREEDOM-REPORT.pdf[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-29-2020).]
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sourmash
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NOV 29, 11:34 AM
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Yes, the Sunni and Shia totally refuse each others pillars of religious foundation, which is where the rift originates and why Iran starts off declaring theirs as representative of the state. Shiites have 12 stated pillars.
But I'm still wondering where Maryjane's 10,000 mosques source is from. In the west we have store front and strip mall "mosques", which would be understandable. But full on mosques seems unlikely. I'm thinking the source is embellishing the theory.
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maryjane
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NOV 29, 11:42 AM
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quote | Originally posted by sourmash:
What?! Your post says mosques. Over 10,000. Is that in Iran? And what is the source? |
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quote | But what's the source estimation for there being over 10,000 in Iran? |
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You weren't specific regarding what the 10K was in relation to and I always try to answer direct questions directly, before moving to anything else.
https://english.khamenei.ir...ilding-Sunni-mosques
Various so-called human rights activists and organizations as well as Wahhabi preachers emphasize that, in their opinion, Sunni Muslims are oppressed in Iran, because as they claim the Islamic Republic does not allow construction of Sunni mosques. Unfortunately, many Sunni Muslims from all over the world are misguided by this propaganda; thus, thinking that Sunnis of Iran are really persecuted; this is while, to the contrary, their rights and status are guaranteed by the Iranian Constitution as well as by the principles of the Shia school of Islamic law.
It seems that even primary statistics refutes these accusations: there are at least 9 Sunni mosques[1] in Tehran and more than 15,000 Sunni mosques all over the Islamic Republic; note that among Iranian Muslims 90-95 % of them are Shias and 10-15 % are Sunnis. Everyone who has visited Iran can confirm that in provinces where Sunni branch of Islam is widely spread it may be harder to find a Shia mosque than a Sunni one. For example, while having rested on Kish island, I would take a taxi when I wished to go to a mosque for Salah al-Eid or Jum‘ah. Taxi drivers usually asked me which mosque I needed to go, a Shia or a Sunni one, as Hormozgan province — where Kish Island is located — is highly populated by Sunnis.
https://www.quora.com/How-m...es-are-there-in-Iran According to Mehr news agency, there are 10,000 Sunni mosques in Iran which makes it one mosque for 500 Sunni individuals. However, the Sunnis say that many of them are only small places for prayer and not mosques.
It is only in the capital city of Tehran that building a 'Grand Sunni Mosque' (or any other kind except private houses of prayer) has been forbidden since the Ayatollah returned to power.
It is difficult with even a modicum of accuracy to say exactly how many of any sect there are in Iran, as it has been decades since an 'official' census of the religious matter has been taken, much less reported publicly.
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maryjane
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NOV 29, 01:58 PM
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This article sounds a bit fishy. Israel used only 100 commandos for the Entebbe raid (aircrews not included) The source (NYP) is not always reliable.
https://nypost.com/2020/11/...t-squad-report-says/
What does "cutting the power" really do in the age of cell phones? Our phones still work fine here when the power goes off.
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rinselberg
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NOV 29, 02:19 PM
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quote | A booby-trapped Nissan was then detonated to block the car behind Fakhrizadeh — as 12 gunmen pounced on him, arriving in a Hyundai Santa Fe and four motorbikes, Ahwaze tweeted. |
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A "Nissan" without any further delimitation, but a "Hyundai Santa Fe"..?
Seems fishy to me. The narrative. The unevenness of the details. Wouldn't a Hyundai Palisade have made more sense?
 [This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 11-29-2020).]
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sourmash
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NOV 29, 06:57 PM
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I thought the motorbike squads were tandam with the back doing the shooting. If you see two people on a bike they're probably Israeli commandos coming to kill you.
quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
You weren't specific regarding what the 10K was in relation to and I always try to answer direct questions directly, before moving to anything else. |
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The blurb reads practically enough to give it credence on first blush. Iran is pretty big. Thanks.
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maryjane
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NOV 30, 01:12 AM
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There seems to be 'conflicting' statements regarding exactly how this went down. The latest says a 'remote controlled machine gun' killed him. https://www.cnn.com/2020/11...chine-gun/index.html
This is beginning to sound like one of MeM's conspiracy theories.  
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blackrams
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NOV 30, 06:10 AM
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quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
There seems to be 'conflicting' statements regarding exactly how this went down. The latest says a 'remote controlled machine gun' killed him.
This is beginning to sound like one of MeM's conspiracy theories.  
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That still doesn't rule out HRC.. 
Rams 
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