The faces of gun crime. (Page 3/4)
rinselberg OCT 16, 11:47 AM
The main reason I put up those two paragraphs from Everytown is about non-lethal injuries, ranging all the way from the relatively minor and fully recoverable, to injuries that result in someone's being permanently changed (and not in a good way) for the remainder of their life. Non-lethal injuries and all of the associated impacts.

It was my first thought when I started to read that other message about "Defund Gun Control."

I am not trying to directly contradict or completely contradict the Defund Gun Control message, but so many kinds of discussions, whether it's guns, or Covid, or military operations like Afghanistan, start out with the number of deaths, and never fill out the contours of impact with the other dimensions of it. Beyond just the number of deaths.

In radio engineering terms--an analogy here--I modulated the Defund Gun Control carrier frequency signal.

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sourmash OCT 16, 06:02 PM
The gun control crowd loves gun crime. It gives them ammo.
Jake_Dragon OCT 17, 04:38 PM
rinselberg OCT 17, 05:37 PM
How seldom, though, that we ever stop to think about the guns of face crime.
MidEngineManiac OCT 17, 06:15 PM

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I know which one owed Guido money !
sourmash OCT 17, 07:12 PM
Gun violence isn't always an unjust action. Using it to halt or prevent violent crime is a worthy and justified time for the violence of using a gun, which is wholly a violent act.
The gun control crowd will use those preventative stats in a generic manner to infer it as one of 'the costs of gun violence.'
williegoat OCT 17, 07:37 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

How seldom, though, that we ever stop to think about the guns of face crime.


In to the sauce a little early there, boy?

The faces of gun crime are those of the Democratic Party.

The crime is their plot to disarm law abiding citizens and undermine the Constitution.
rinselberg OCT 17, 07:38 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:
Gun violence isn't always an unjust action. Using it to halt or prevent violent crime is a worthy and justified time for the violence of using a gun, which is wholly a violent act. The gun control crowd will use those preventative stats in a generic manner to infer it as one of 'the costs of gun violence.


Are those "preventative" stats (statistics) actually available to anyone? I don't think that there is a nation-wide system for recording and counting when a gun is fired to kill or wound someone in an act of legitimate self defense. I don't even know if there is a single one of the 50 states that does that.

Does anyone know different?

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MidEngineManiac OCT 17, 07:39 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:


The crime is their plot to disarm law abiding citizens and undermine the Constitution.



Once they make stealing oxygen breathing a crime, there will be no law-abiding citizens.
williegoat OCT 17, 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Are those "preventative" stats (statistics) actually available to anyone? I don't think that there is a nation-wide system for recording and counting when a gun is fired to kill or wound someone in an act of legitimate self defense. I don't even know if there is a single one of the 50 states that does that.

Does anyone know different?



They have been readily available for quite some time. Here is the first result from a cursory Google search: https://www.heritage.org/da...-gun-uses-in-the-us/

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All of the law-abiding citizens featured in this database successfully defended their liberties, lives, or livelihoods with the lawful use of a firearm. These cases are not based on hearsay, but on verifiable reports found through public sources.





There are many more where that came from.

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