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RayOtton
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JUL 09, 08:04 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by sardonyx247:
In reality I have yet to meet a smart vegan/vegetarian, all so far are total morons. |
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Deceased wife graduated Summa Cum Laude with an MS in Special Education.
And it wasn't just book smarts either. Before her career change she was a $90K manufacturing manger in the electronics industry with 200 people under her direction.
She made the choice to be a vegetarian both for moral and health reasons and never once did she judge anyone else for their own choices.
So, dead?
Yes.
Moron?
No.
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sardonyx247
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JUL 09, 08:18 AM
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P.eople
E.ating
T.asty
A.nimals
Edit to add: without going into detail, I stand by my previous statement.[This message has been edited by sardonyx247 (edited 07-09-2017).]
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Keel
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JUL 09, 08:39 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by RayOtton:
Deceased wife graduated Summa Cum Laude with an MS in Special Education.
And it wasn't just book smarts either. Before her career change she was a $90K manufacturing manger in the electronics industry with 200 people under her direction.
She made the choice to be a vegetarian both for moral and health reasons and never once did she judge anyone else for their own choices.
So, dead?
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What if the lack of iron from red meat, was what caused her sickness??
I won't call someone I don't know , or that is dead that I never met a moron..
But the fact that just because we can't communicate with fruits and vegies don't mean they don't suffer, or feel pain.. As that is the reason most vegans use for not eating animals..
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sardonyx247
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JUL 09, 08:42 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Keel:
What if the lack of iron from red meat, was what caused her sickness??
I won't call someone I don't know , or that is dead that I never met a moron..
But the fact that just because we can't communicate with fruits and vegies don't mean they don't suffer, or feel pain.. As that is the reason most vegans use for not eating animals.. |
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Exactly, just because it doesn't move, makes it ok to eat.?.? it is still a life-form.
May as well eat retarded people, same thing right?.?.?
One/many people becoming vegans will not stop one cow from dying, it would only put meat on sale for the rest of us.
I have yet to see one "fact" that say not eating meat is healthier. no hippie/vegan BS but an actual proven (not by vegans) fact[This message has been edited by sardonyx247 (edited 07-09-2017).]
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williegoat
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JUL 09, 08:58 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
So the Impossible Burger is a 100-percent vegan product. Nothing "animal" about it.
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Soy about that. I've bean wrong before.
I wonder if they will sell it here. If nodule tell me cow vegan find it where we live.
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RayOtton
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JUL 09, 09:25 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Keel:
What if the lack of iron from red meat, was what caused her sickness??
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She had MS.
There are a lot of theories out there as to the cause but it's such a variable disease with vastly different outcomes for different people that they can't pin it down.
Genetic? Environment? Nutrition? Virus? All possibilities.
She was of Northern European descent. Not enough sunlight? Maybe. Turns out Scotland has one of the highest incidences of MS.
She worked in the microelectronics industry with a lot of organic chemicals, another flag.
She was a vegetarian. Lack of B vitamins is on the list of possible causes.
She also had a low natural body temp of 96 degrees which is another theory.
She was also a staunch Republican. So maybe......................
| quote | Originally posted by Keel:
I won't call someone I don't know , or that is dead that I never met a moron..
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And that was my point with my response. Painting all vegetarians with the same brush is no different than painting all Christians, Muslims, Rural Whites or Inner City Blacks the same way.
Apparently not everyone thinks the way you and I do. I mean, the other poster even went to the trouble of doubling down on his "moron" smear. He could have just shut up but that's not what we do on the 'net, am I right?
| quote | Originally posted by Keel:
..... As that is the reason most vegans use for not eating animals.. |
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See, a little bit of the broad brush again.
Actually, it's split. Some commit for moral reasons and some for health.
Total Vegans tend to be moralists while vegetarians tend to do it for health. Total Vegans are the ones who won't wear leather shoes and the like. Ovo/Lacto vegetarians don't eat meat, eggs or dairy but do wear leather and even run of the mill vegetarians have different dietary restrictions.
Might be a good idea if everyone stopped putting people in little boxes.[This message has been edited by RayOtton (edited 07-09-2017).]
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rinselberg
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JUL 09, 09:34 AM
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As far as I'm concerned, it's all just hypothetical until I actually try an Impossible Burger. If I don't like it, that's the end of it, from my perspective.
I haven't shopped the various kinds of vegan burger offerings that are available, but when I saw this one, I had a lunch hunch that this is one that falls outside of the already well established boundaries for this kind of product. I think this "heme-based" approach is something new. If anyone wants to make sense of that, they need to (ahem) digest what I posted earlier on this thread, before it got to this point.
This isn't about sparing the lives of beef cattle for sentimental reasons. It's about satisfying a globally expanding desire for burger-like entrees without having to raise and slaughter beef cattle to serve the people who would accept and perhaps even prefer this product as an alternative to ground beef. A person might think, hey, I like it, and I will stick with this instead of ground beef, and then go to bed every night after an Impossible Burger "day", looking forward to experiencing pleasant dreams about how their decision is reducing the global agricultural demand for water and ranch and feed crop acreage, and reducing their personal footprint in terms of the global summation of all human-related greenhouse gas emissions. Or they can have this instead of a beef burger every other time, or every two out of seven times, and have the same pleasant dreams, but less frequently, in proportion.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 07-09-2017).]
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cliffw
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JUL 09, 09:48 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Khw:
I find it amusing that vegans/vegetarians attempt to make their vegetables taste more like the stuff they don't want to eat... I don't see the omnivores out here trying to make their steak taste like corn on the cob... |
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I often double quote any opinions I have of people who offer opinions.
Yours stands proudly alone.
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williegoat
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JUL 09, 09:56 AM
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There are those, however, who insist that their steak be left on the grill until it has the taste and texture of a tree. (but I'm pretty sure they are all communists)
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cliffw
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JUL 09, 10:12 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by rinselberg:
I don't know of anyone who thinks that it would be better for the planet, or better for the global ecosystem, to raise and devour more "head" of large, four-legged livestock like cattle and hogs, to keep pace with human demand, instead of "plussing up" on other ways to produce or harvest food.
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You don't know of anyone ? Am I a "nobody".
I don't know of anybody who thinks more labor crop tending is the way to go. Cows work for free, you just got to feed them a vegan burger every once in a while.
I had a Vegan Burger at the restaurant the wife and I went to. It wasn't called the impossible burger. It was called a chef salad. I tried some ketchup and mustard on it. Terrible. My wife put some A1 steak sauce on hers, a regular vegan salad. Terrible.
Maybe they need to put some fat in these vegan burgers that bleed. Can you even get a medium rare vegan burger ?
Don't get me wrong. Vegetables do have their place. They make fine wine, and beer. I like my broccoli, brussell sprouts, spinach, coliflower, and all kinds of beans. Potatoes. I like Potatoes too.
You are touting/spouting a delicacy you have not even tasted. Me thinks you are touting an ideology.
Eat your vegan burger. If it makes you feel like a Prius, I am happy for you.
Did you know ... if we have to produce more vegetables, more C02 would be released into the atmosphere. Which produce more ? Animals or vegetables. You will be surprised.
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