Beware of the 'Blob'.. recent U.S. weather extremes linked to warm ocean West Coast (Page 3/6)
2.5 APR 16, 03:36 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

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The net effect of these anomalous winds is a cooling in the 2012 global average surface air temperature of 0.1–0.2◦C, which can account for much of the hiatus in surface warming observed since 2001.




Anomalous, cool word.
rinselberg APR 16, 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by bigformula:
Even though the evidence is proof the planet has not gotten warmer, these radicals keep trying to convince you it is getting warmer. Now rinselberg is trying to convince you that a small "blob" off the coast of two states is climate change. Yet when the northeast gets cold and people claim global warming is false, rinaelberg is on here stating that climate is bigger than a couple states in the northeast. Yet its ok for him to use a mere two states of slightly warmer water to claim its climate change that effects the whole planet. The radical moves the goalposts constantly to support his radical ideology.


Reading comprehension?

Please, educate yourself. Browse this one report (link, below) from just 8 days ago, written for a general audience, and published online by the Australian Broadcasting Company.

If you said something along the lines of "You know, I'm skeptical about these global warming reports and predictions. There are just too many different factors and scenarios that come up in all of these reports. I don't think that there is a solid scientific consensus about the state of the earth's climate, or about any practical ways to change the course that it is on", that would come across as a more reasonable reaction on your part. But every time you try to fire a scientific "bullet", you only end up shooting your own self.

You don't have the scientific grasp to shoot down any of what is in this report (link below), any more than I have the extraordinary competence that would be required for me to be able to independently confirm any or all of it in a seriously convincing manner.

I suggest this particular writeup, because it touches on so many of the topics that are currently being discussed in this field.


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You may have heard that global warming has 'paused' but it's only one part of a bigger picture and the search for understanding has equipped climate scientists with better tools than ever.

http://www.abc.net.au/envir...15/04/08/4209225.htm

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frontal lobe APR 16, 05:07 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:


Is global climate change playing a role in the rise of the North Pacific Mode? Neither Bond nor Hartmann is willing to say. "I don't think we know the answer," Hartmann said.






This is progress. Because not knowing the answer, for the past 15-20 years or so, hasn't stopped "scientists" from saying it was due to global climate change. Interesting that they are now unwilling to say they don't know the answer.

And they also wouldn't have called it global climate change. They would have called it global warming.
The actual information posted is interesting in and of itself. Thanks for posting.
rinselberg MAY 01, 05:10 PM

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Originally posted by 2.5:
Under water volcano action, or would there be smoke?


An underwater volcano off the coast of Oregon has risen from its slumber and may be spewing out lava about a mile beneath the sea.

Researchers were alerted to the possible submarine eruption of the Axial Seamount, located about 300 miles (480 kilometers) off the West Coast, by large changes in the seafloor elevation and an increase in the number of tiny earthquakes on April 24. . . .

http://www.nbcnews.com/scie...pting-oregon-n352226


I am not advancing this as related in any way to the gi-normous "blob" of warm ocean waters offshore (Original Post) that two research studies have linked to the U.S. weather extremes of 2014 and 2015, as manifested in warm, dry weather patterns persisting up and down the West Coast, alongside remarkable extremes of cold, rain, hail and snow that have battered many of the other states from the Midwest to the East Coast.

This volcanic activity was only detected about a week ago (April 24), and they were observing the "blob" as far back as 3Q 2013.

I can't imagine that this is volcanic activity on a scale that it could be elevating surface temps by 2 to 7 degrees (F) over such a large expanse of ocean.

I haven't "done the math", but if this were a game show, I would say that there has not been volcanic activity on that scale since the last of the dinosaurs, about 65 million years ago.

But when I saw this report, I remembered that post from 2.5

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rinselberg AUG 01, 12:20 PM
The "Blob" is back, and it's bigger--and warmer.

Oceanographers, marine biologists and climate researchers are out in droves, studying the very warm Pacific Ocean waters that are close onshore from Puget Sound, south all the way to the west coast of Mexico.

"It's not climate change, but it's something we expect to see more frequently during the coming decades."


Two-minute video segment on NBC News
http://www.nbcnews.com/vide...seattle-495155267829

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rinselberg FEB 24, 03:51 AM
Back by popular demand, after a hiatus of 574 days (since the previous post)


"Blob" in Pacific Ocean linked to spike in ozone

A warm blob of water lurking in the Pacific Ocean in 2014 and 2015 led to a spike in ozone levels across the western U.S., new research suggests.

The blob of warm water, which sat about 310 miles off the Oregon coast, was linked to a high-pressure system in the atmosphere that resulted in warm, calm air and sunny skies across nearly a quarter of the country, said study co-author Dan Jaffe, an atmospheric scientist at the University of Washington Bothell.

Those atmospheric conditions sped up the formation of ozone in the atmosphere . . .

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The "blob" ― as meteorologists affectionately called the mass of warm water ― occurred from the winter of 2014 through the summer of 2015, when high sea-surface temperatures prevailed in the Northeast Pacific Ocean. The warmer waters — about 2 to 7 degrees Fahrenheit higher than average for the region — spanned from the coast of Sitka, Alaska, to Santa Barbara, California, and came with a high-pressure system in the atmosphere that led to low wind speeds, fewer storms and sunnier skies.

The warm blob scrambled the food chain and brought a host of strange ecological effects: The toastier waters fueled some of the worst-ever toxic red tide algal blooms , and marine mammals died in droves as they struggled to find enough food in normally cold, food-rich waters, Jaffe said.

But the blob also had stark effects inland. In June 2015, for instance, the average monthly air temperatures were elevated between 1.8 and 10.8 F relative to normal in the western U.S., researchers reported Wednesday, Feb. 15, in the journal Geophysical Research Letters . These regions also experienced more cloud-free, windless days.

Jaffe and his colleagues had been tracking levels of ozone , a compound with three atoms of oxygen that can irritate the lungs, at the Mount Bachelor Observatory in central Oregon.

They found record-high levels of ozone above the Oregon peak. That spurred them to examine levels throughout the Mountain West. Sure enough, they found highly elevated levels of ozone throughout the region.

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The new findings suggest the blob directly led to dangerous levels of ozone across the western U.S.

What's not known, however, is whether climate change [global warming] will lead to more of these "blobby" weather patterns.

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http://www.foxnews.com/scie...-spike-in-ozone.html

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E.Furgal FEB 24, 06:41 AM
WHere does one get full height boots. as the crap is getting to deep

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WBailey1041 FEB 24, 07:43 AM

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Originally posted by E.Furgal:

WHere does one get full height boots. as the crap is getting to deep




No kidding. I'm sure it's due to my lack of scientific prowess but this reads like a lot of theory and few facts. What are these guys smoking! A meteorologist can't tell me if it's gonna rain next week for certain but these climate scientists have it all figured out. Comparing the "models" from 2000 to actual data shows how terribly wrong this crowd has been. Considering their track record I can extrapolate that this is likely BS as well.
Lambo nut FEB 24, 09:31 AM
Maybe we can get our R12 back on the shelves.
cliffw FEB 24, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by Lambo nut:

Maybe we can get our R12 back on the shelves.