The Trump Impeachment Proceedings (Page 26/49)
randye DEC 30, 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

But if Congress were to approve an aid package for Israel as a budget item, in a bill that does not make it conditional upon any "strings" that Israel has to do This or That, as a condition for getting the package, and then President Warren (Sanders... whoever) were to attempt to leverage their Article One authorities beyond their proper limits, as a way to block the aid package... then it seems to me that would be another "Ukraine-gate" kind of situation.




Your raging, untreated, MENTAL ILLNESS is still a real liability for you Ronald.

It's likely a very big part of what causes your illusion that you're smarter than you actually are.

GET HELP




(All you had to do was simply READ THE DAMN ARTICLE you psychotic moron)

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rinselberg DEC 31, 08:23 AM
I don't see any logical conflict whatsoever, between what I said, and the message that immediately precedes this one.

But even if there were... he'd be doing himself a favor.







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Lord hear our prayer.

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rinselberg DEC 31, 09:04 AM
Oh, I said "Article One", but if I were going to revise my statement, it would be "Article Two."

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cliffw DEC 31, 10:15 AM
I got to thinking, for rinselberg [/sarcasm], who passed the Ukraine Military Aid Bill.


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https://www.newsnation.in/world/news/us-congress-passes-ukraine-aid-bill-37437.html
Washington, PTI | Updated : 02 April 2014, 12:21 PM

The House of Representatives voted 378 to 34 yesterday to approve the bill, which has now been sent to the White House for US President Barack Obama to sign it into a law.



I did some checking, for rinselberg [/sarcasm], on which party had control of the House in the US Congress. Republicans sent it to Nobama's desk for signing.

Now, Democrats are impeaching the Republican President because he did not do what Republicans wanted.


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Originally posted by olejoedad:
Uh, wouldn't the House have to pass a budget for that to work?



Well olejoedad, ... wait ... is your last name Biden, ?
According to my link ... :

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WASHINGTON―The U.S. House on Thursday passed legislation to make sure Ukraine can spend $250 million in military aid after White House delayed it this summer.

The language was among provisions tacked to a continuing resolution to avoid a government shutdown through Nov. 21 to buy more time for Congress’s spending negotiations. The Senate is expected to take up and pass the stopgap spending bill as-is next week.



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The Nutsy Nancy delay ? Pundits say it is for Schroomer to get time to build up public support for the Dumbs to keep making the rules. Umm, good luck with that. The Dumbs have not swayed one member of their President's core of support.

Nutsy Nancy had used the excuse that she needs to know what kind of a trial there would be before she picks her managers. Why doesn't she just send her top attack dogs, Shifty and Naddster ?
Oh wait, that didn't work out too well, .


rinselberg DEC 31, 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by cliffw:
Now, Democrats are impeaching the Republican President because he did not do what Republicans wanted(?)


No. But better to let the Articles of Impeachment "speak" for themselves. I don't think it would be hard to find the text of it online and review it.

Think of Obama vs Trump in an "NFL" framework... as "wideouts" or Wide Receivers.

Obama runs an "Out" pattern that takes him downfield and then towards one of the sidelines.

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The ruling on the field is 'Complete.' But here comes the challenge flag from the Republicans. Did Obama come down with that second foot in bounds? That was close. I don't think there's going to be enough video evidence to have it overruled.



Trump, running the same kind of pattern.

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WTF? He was almost in the field level seating section at midfield when he caught that ball. He ran completely out of bounds, and then pushed his way through the Democrats that were watching from their sideline area. And now he's screaming at the officials, that he was inbounds when he caught that ball? I've never seen anything like it, Joe.

Tony Kania DEC 31, 10:59 AM
Again, fictional stories to prove "fact"?

"If Obama said..."

"Maybe Trump did..."

"It could have happened..."

"Perhaps if..."

Every time a demoncrat from the media speaks, it is in fictional terms?

A bit extra today.
rinselberg DEC 31, 11:08 AM
Well, I just wanted to add that it was the same offensive play call in both of my scenarios. "Ukraine 23." That's what it was called a few years ago, although now they're calling it the "Kiev Special."
cliffw DEC 31, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
No. But better to let the Articles of Impeachment "speak" for themselves. I don't think it would be hard to find the text of it online and review it.



I keep looking. Perhaps you can provide some help. All I find is Dumbocratic Articles of Impeachment.

Abuse Of Power and Obstruction Of Congress.

Abuse Of Power. Nobama said 14 times that he could not Constitutionally defer US Immigration law in the illegals favor. One time even saying "I am not a King". Yet he did in Deferred Action for Child Arrivals. Including their parents.

Obstruction Of Congress. What the hell is that ? Your President gave Mueller EVERYTHING he wanted, even though he could have claimed Executive Privilege on much/some. It wasn't even Congress, it was the House. Now Nutsy Nancy has to hope the Senate will go to court to settle the Executive Power matter.
cliffw DEC 31, 11:32 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
Well, I just wanted to add that it was the same offensive play call in both of my scenarios.



True that, I guess. What you are missing I guess is the concept of football.

There is an offensive team, and a defensive team. Actually, two teams which rotate that need. You did know there was another team, yes ? A team of referees. I will call them the Supreme Court. The third coequal branch of government, umm, sports.

There are also other teams. The lobbyists, umm, cheerleaders, .
Tony Kania DEC 31, 01:20 PM
"Imagine a scenario..."