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MidEngineManiac
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APR 19, 12:38 PM
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First of all, there is such a thing as managed risk. If Kim and I pack up the dogs from here, where we live alone-together, and drive 4 hours without stopping to an isolated cabin-fishing hole I've been to hundreds of times, there is zero risk of anything except to the egos of self-important tin dictators who forget they only have power so long as we the people allow it.
Second... Continued later due to a dead battery 
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maryjane
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APR 19, 12:55 PM
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| quote | | And lets face it, most of the folks spreading virus around down here are not the folks you typically see doing home improvement projects. |
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What kind of data is supporting that?
Are the admitting physicians around there asking if the patients had just previously painted their house or built a new closet recently?
Here, (East Texas) from everything I've seen in the news, the average patient including avg fatality is........... the average joe.
bus drivers, shop keepers, refinery workers, plumbers, teachers, a welder (2 most recent in nearest town worked the counter at Love's truck stop) , clerks, bankers, farmers..nothing specific or unusual. Almost everyone around my region is service sector/blue collar tho.
I could be wrong, but other than being picky regarding species, I don't think a virus is very particular about which respiratory tract it sets up house in.
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D B Cooper
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APR 19, 01:00 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
What kind of data is supporting that?
Are the admitting physicians around there asking if the patients had just previously painted their house or built a new closet recently?
Here, (East Texas) from everything I've seen in the news, the average patient including avg fatality is........... the average joe.
bus drivers, shop keepers, refinery workers, plumbers, teachers, a welder (2 most recent in nearest town worked the counter at Love's truck stop) , clerks, bankers, farmers..nothing specific or unusual. Almost everyone around my region is service sector/blue collar tho.
I could be wrong, but other than being picky regarding species, I don't think a virus is very particular about which respiratory tract it sets up house in.
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No, I don't think the virus itself cares whose lung tissue it shacks up in. But some people afford it more opportunity than others to shack up in theirs. My generalization was based on the rates of home ownership in the hardest hit areas relative to the areas with fewer cases. Folks who are renting don't tend to be investing time and money into home improvement projects on a property someone else owns is all.[This message has been edited by D B Cooper (edited 04-19-2020).]
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Fats
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APR 19, 03:30 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by D B Cooper:
No, I don't think the virus itself cares whose lung tissue it shacks up in. But some people afford it more opportunity than others to shack up in theirs. My generalization was based on the rates of home ownership in the hardest hit areas relative to the areas with fewer cases. Folks who are renting don't tend to be investing time and money into home improvement projects on a property someone else owns is all.
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Don't forget that Michigan is allowing people who live in other states to go to vacation homes they have in Northern Mi. But people that already live in Michigan can't travel there. 
We can now get paint and seeds at the smaller hardware stores, and Meijers has basically told Michigan to pound sand. 
Brad
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longjonsilver
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MAY 13, 12:51 PM
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| quote | | Originally posted by longjonsilver: Secondly, we are quickly driving this country to a second Great Depression where unemployment is at levels never before seen and where only the 1% and the major banks have anything resembling wealth. This Depression will be so devastating that it will make the first look weak in comparison, not just because of employment but because of the real human toll after decades of globalism, Free Trade, and urbanization have gutted this country of its workforce, manufacturing, healthcare, education, production capabilities, and general living standards. |
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
Having stated it, you now get to prove it. |
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The Bank of England has forecast that the coronavirus crisis will push the UK economy into its deepest recession in 300 years, with output plunging almost 30 per cent in the first half of the year, |
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https://www.ft.com/content/...a6-a6ec-19e8b22dad3c
Is the Financial times and the Bank of England authoritative enuf for y'all?
jon
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Astronomy says we will find a coded signal from outer space. Then we'll KNOW that life exists there, for coded signals aren't by chance.
Biology says there are coded genetic signals in every cell, but we KNOW that no intelligence created life.
I'm the original owner of a white ' 84 2M4 purchased Dec 10, 1983 from Pontiac. Always garaged, no rust, 4-wheel drifts are fun!
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maryjane
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MAY 13, 01:06 PM
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A great link and full of information for those that can't read or comprehend..or won't.
The US is not GB.
Even so, the real takeaway from the article is as follows:
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In contrast to the gloomy assessment of the current economic position, the longer-term economic projections were more upbeat, with the BoE expecting “only limited scarring to the economy”.
The bank’s back-of-the-envelope scenarios assumed long-term damage to the economy would be only 1.5 per cent of gross domestic product and would come from missed business investment in 2020. Otherwise it predicted the economy would bounce back in a V-shaped recovery.
Mr Bailey said the economic rebound was likely to happen “much more rapidly than the pullback from the global financial crisis”.
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But please, continue with your 'sky is falling' conspiracy crap. It is I suppose, slightly entertaining .[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 05-13-2020).]
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longjonsilver
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MAY 20, 04:44 AM
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by maryjane:
But please, continue with your 'sky is falling' conspiracy crap. It is I suppose, slightly entertaining .
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OK then, be slightly entertained by the plight of these people, many of whom are your neighbors.... And i suppose their jobs are part of the conspiracy?
And thanks to the lockdown which was worldwide (except for Sweden among developed countries) the UK data is relevant.
jon
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maryjane
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MAY 20, 11:29 AM
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And?
The sky is not falling, you aren't Henny Penny and this is not the end of the world.
My reference to the US not being the UK has absolutely nothing to do with data.
(and, None of my neighbors are out of work.)[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 05-20-2020).]
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longjonsilver
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MAY 29, 07:05 AM
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Bankruptcy means a loss of jobs. Still think that the lockdown didn't start a depression?
https://finance.yahoo.com/n...stest-100000110.html
So was it worth it?------------------
Astronomy says we will find a coded signal from outer space. Then we'll KNOW that life exists there, for coded signals aren't by chance.
Biology says there are coded genetic signals in every cell, but we KNOW that no intelligence created life.
I'm the original owner of a white ' 84 2M4 purchased Dec 10, 1983 from Pontiac. Always garaged, no rust, 4-wheel drifts are fun!
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82-T/A [At Work]
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MAY 29, 09:23 AM
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No... I'm curious how we handled other diseases, like Polio, or Tuberculosis... did we shut down the entire country for those?
EDIT: Also, I'm really getting tired of all the stupid "Stay Home, Stay Safe" commercials.[This message has been edited by 82-T/A [At Work] (edited 05-29-2020).]
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