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williegoat
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DEC 21, 06:22 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by GTGeff:
Is the President not entitled to a speedy trial? |
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The way I understand it, the 6th Amendment applies only to criminal proceedings.
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LitebulbwithaFiero
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DEC 21, 08:43 AM
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Impeachment is the same as an indictment.
As Willie said, it is the process of bringing charges against someone, like the President.
It does not mean he is guilty or is hoong to be removed from office.
It means
- He is believed to have committed a crime
- And that they nelieve they have enough evident to convict him
| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
The way I understand it, the 6th Amendment applies only to criminal proceedings. |
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The crimes they are accusing the President of don't fall into this category?[This message has been edited by LitebulbwithaFiero (edited 12-21-2019).]
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olejoedad
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DEC 21, 09:35 AM
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I haven't seen evidence of any crimes committed by the President during this impeachment.
I have seen hurt feelings, disagreements on foreign policy and some criminal activity by some law enforcement officials though.....
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Monkeyman
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DEC 21, 10:38 AM
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Trump has not yet been impeached although there's little doubt he will be. The impeachment isn't official until the House actually submits the articles of impeachment to the Senate. In theory, if the House of Representatives decides NOT to submit the impeachment articles to the Senate, Trump wouldn't be impeached.
Once the articles of impeachment have been submitted to the Senate, the Senate then basically does 2 things. 1) They decide if the impeached is guilty of the alleged crimes (which won't happen PERIOD. Remember when Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Street in NYC and get away with it? Yeah, like that.) and 2) whether to remove the guilty party from office. Note, even if Trump were to be removed from office, he could still run for President next year and win. The crimes he has been accused of are not ones in which he wouldn't be able to run for office again if found guilty (those would be things like treason, etc).
I'm not giving my opinion as to whether Trump is guilty, innocent, a good man or a bad man. I'm only stating facts.
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blackrams
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DEC 21, 10:52 AM
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Seems the pot is calling the kettle black.
  [This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 12-21-2019).]
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Rickady88GT
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DEC 21, 10:58 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by williegoat:
The way I understand it, the 6th Amendment applies only to criminal proceedings. |
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The house is responsible for drawing up articles of impeachment, so when those articles of impeachment are voted on and passed then delivered to the Senate are those articles of impeachment still called articles of impeachment or are they called and impeachment?
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olejoedad
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DEC 21, 02:42 PM
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Once the Articles have been voted on and passed by the House, then it is Impeachment.
Until the vote, it is an investigation.
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randye
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DEC 21, 03:37 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by LitebulbwithaFiero:
The crimes they are accusing the President of don't fall into this category?
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NO
ARTICLE I: ABUSE OF POWER
ARTICLE II: OBSTRUCTION OF CONGRESS
Neither are a criminal offense codified in law or statute.
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cliffw
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DEC 22, 09:29 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Tony Kania:
Proudly.
I believe that you know where I stand. I am not interested in the first half, let alone the second half. But, I must pay attention. 
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I, proudly, was interested in the first half. The national rally for impeachment ? There was none ! It was in the Dumbocratic wet dreams. Which they have had since 2016.
Paying attention ? Then you should have been interested in the first half. Hell Tony, I even listen to MSNBC, CNN, NBC, and the rest of the lame stream outlets.
Anywho, funny this :
Nancy Pelosi, Nutsy Nancy, is now asking for a Quid Pro Qou, from the Senate. She won't give them what they don't want, unless they give her what she wants.
What does she want ? She wants the Senate to do what her House could not do. To find reason to impeach her President.
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Tony Kania
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DEC 22, 11:43 AM
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I have a fiver on late night raids waking up several democrats for treason. 
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