230 years of rights and liberties shredded - why i oppose the lockdown (Page 21/24)
82-T/A [At Work] APR 13, 09:45 AM

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Originally posted by Boondawg:
You see lots of evidence of that here, do ya'?
And you really believe in it?
...

Yeah, so much for "looking after each other no matter what"...




We are all separated geographically, which limits the ability for those of us to provide support to each other. Being in digital format, we're more expressive, and the O/T has become a place where politics are freely discussed. As with any topic, there are strong opinions and people feel empowered to express them. Furthermore, some opinions are viewed as a direct-attack on our way of lives. I see Socialism as the ultimate downfall of our country, and I personally have no trouble getting emotionally engaged to fight it.

But if the situation were one in which we all lived in the same small community and there was tragedy, guarantee we'd all be helping each other out. As much as you like your arguments with Tony and Randy, I guarantee to you either one of them would quickly pull you off the street to save your life if a bus was barrelling down the road and you weren't paying attention. As I would too, and as I'm sure you would for them.



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Originally posted by Patrick:
Mark me down as doubtful.

I've been here a long time. I've seen a lot of members come and go over the last two decades. The harassment and hostility that is allowed to take place here is inexcusable.



Cliff could probably respond if he felt compelled to do so, but my take on this is that he's got a life outside of Fiero.nl. I'd suspect in many cases that this website is very often more a burden than it is enjoyment. We come on here to BS, talk about Fieros, and everything else. But imagine if you were the one responsible for maintaining the website, paying the bills for it, and moderating it? I think it would get pretty old, pretty quick.

I run a couple of websites... PontiacPerformance.net being one of them. There's no message board, but it went down for over a year when my hosting company crashed. I eventually moved it to GoDaddy, which uses Linux servers that's case-sensitive, so half my images don't display. I could probably go through all the html files and update them in a single day, but it's just not a huge priority... re: life. I know that Cliff is generally fiscally conservative, and not particularly a fan of Socialism... but I don't think he means any spite by not responding. He's just got much more going on with his life and Fiero.NL takes a back seat... :/


Personally, I don't like it when anyone is banned, whether that's someone like Uhlanstan, or that anti-Trump guy Chemdawg or whoever his name was. I don't enjoy echo chambers... which is why more than half my friends are liberal, and my wife is a Democrat.

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Tony Kania APR 13, 10:27 AM
I absolutely CHOOSE to play here. I am not offended, and I want ALL to speak freely. Not once have I stepped differently.

Now, having kids like Patrick, and Donald Eugene Keech tell me what to say and do...

Heck, good morning little biotches! Wakey, wakey, eggs and bakey marijuana abusers!
cliffw APR 15, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by Tony Kania:
If you live in Michigan, you may want to see what your Governor is doing to your freedoms. You can shop at certain stores, but are limited to what you can now purchase. You want to buy paint for your walls? NOPE! How about some tape for paint that you already have? NOPE. Perhaps you need some gardening tools, a mattress, BBQ grill? NOPE. In a few short hours things of that nature will not be purchasable in Michigan until further notice.

Kiss those liberties good by. Freedoms will never return without blood shed. Just predicting the future.



"Operation Gridlock" protest underway at State Capitol

Up to the hour coverage.



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Originally posted by maryjane:
Those orders come about because of people that believe they should be able to do whatever they want to when in a public place of business regardless of the risk that action presents to others.

It's not nearly the first time in history that govt hasorder certain items not be sold.



Govt used to segregate race too.

Civil disobedience can be a good thing.
Tony Kania APR 15, 01:45 PM
Operation Gridlock is nearly impossible to find on Youtube. NO live streams available, yet thousands of people are gathering?

The first page of a Yahoo search only garners local FOX news, and one ABC article from the 14th. The rest are Breitbart and right leaning.

I am damn near done with this myself. The yard, home, and cars are all polished and waxed, I may need to break the law here and take a drive?
Tony Kania APR 15, 01:52 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUYALX2L71o
olejoedad APR 15, 02:16 PM
Good to know your political heroes Tony.
I see that your liberal Democrat cry closet customers views have rubbed off on you.

I guess that means you're coming out of the closet?

😁
Tony Kania APR 15, 02:56 PM
I am guessing sarcastic humor? I have admittedly made mistakes lately on information, but pretty fuccking reliable none the less.

Family, Friends, Neighbors...
olejoedad APR 15, 03:05 PM
Yeah, that was sarcasm.....

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Boondawg APR 16, 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by Tony Kania:

Now, having kids like ... tell me what to say and do...




Seriously, just exactly how stupid are you?
Who do you think here believes for even 1 second anyone is trying to tell you what to do or say?
Really. Name 1 person.
Just 1.

You don't count.
You're a moron.

Really, what do you do when you're not mentally blowing yourself?

Tony Kania APR 16, 12:33 AM

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Originally posted by Boondawg:

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Marijuana stores are essential in the state of Washington.

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