The Trump Impeachment Proceedings (Page 20/49)
Jake_Dragon DEC 20, 10:01 AM
So abuse of power.
Right before an election the sitting president is impeached in the house but they do not send it to the senate?
Regardless of who is sitting in the office how does this happen and why are they getting away with it?

Because if they do send it then the sitting president has a chance to an actual trial with witnesses?
Because the case will fall apart and spin up other charges, charges they don't want to address?

We the people should know that we can trust our government, no one part of it should be able to say this is it and not have a fair day in court.
If they cant govern for all of the people than they should be removed.
Tony Kania DEC 20, 10:49 AM
We will not hear much from the "intelligent conversationalists". Not much at all.

KAGA2020


Edit: Congressman Clyburn circa 12/19/19 ~ "Hang him".

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MadMark DEC 20, 10:58 AM
Jake, the Democrats are doing this because they think they can get away with it. They have the media in their pocket and had the forum of the House to do this despicable Impeachment. So Barr and the prosecutor who is looking into the corruption will soon (well maybe not soon, its a relative term) be handing out charges like they are candy to those who have perpetrated this illegal and unconstitutional abuse of power.

While they have succeeded in Impeaching President Trump. He is still our president. He will not be removed by this. And you can see that the Democrats are flailing about trying to make something stick. The sad thing is that there are still significant amounts of people who believe all of that Shiff. They still claim that our president was colluding with Russia, even though they had what 2 years of investigation, $40 million dollars spent and a crew of radical Democrats trying to find something. Anything. But, they couldn't. They hate our president and it is very apparent that they do and that is the only reason for this Impeachment push. Now they just want to drop it without following through. It would be laughable if it weren't so serious.

It is my hope that many of these criminals end up in a real prison, not some federal golf club. And for a long time. They certainly deserve it. And as for the media. All I can say is that they are already suffering for their abuse of their power. People know that they were not only biased in their reporting they were leading the charge to try to remove our president any way possible. Just don't watch them anymore. That is my plan. I refuse to be lied to continually. They will fail do to their own behavior and collapse under their lack of funding.

And I certainly hope that it is a long time before we have a Democratic president. And maybe there will not be another crazy Impeachment pointed at their president in retaliation.
williegoat DEC 20, 11:30 AM
There are some constitutional scholars who are of the opinion that until the Articles of Impeachment are handed to the senate, there is no impeachment. Trump may not yet be the third president to be impeached.
I am not sure I agree, but it is something to ponder.
Jake_Dragon DEC 20, 11:39 AM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

There are some constitutional scholars who are of the opinion that until the Articles of Impeachment are handed to the senate, there is no impeachment. Trump may not yet be the third president to be impeached.
I am not sure I agree, but it is something to ponder.



So if they do impeach him and null this term he could run for two more
cliffw DEC 20, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by Tony Kania:
I did not involve myself with the national rally for impeachment. But, I did laugh loudly as I drove under their anti-Trump signs in my nice warm pickup while I sipped my coffee yesterday morning.

I will gloat.



Gosh Tony, to me, you come off like a NFL lineman sacking the quarterback in the second quarter. The game ain't over. It's going to get more interesting in the second half.

Or not. ? More on that later.

Nancy Botox, , ... she is the Speaker of the House.
The Speaker of the House 'presides' over the House.
THEY RULE !

Last night, for sure historic, our third President has been impeached. Who was presiding over the House ? Not Nancy. How many "Where is Hunter ?" T-shirts were sold ? Where IS Nancy ? A historic moment.

She was there. She chose not to preside. She was given opening remarks. And the impeachment vote tally count.

Is it going to be sent to the Senate ? Just after the vote tally count, she took questions. She was asked when she was going to send the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate ?

Gosh ! It was a "we have to pass this Bill to see what is in it" moment. She didn't know what to do. She embarrassed herself. As well as the Dumbocrats and the USA in the eyes of the World.

Let me give an analogy. Impeachment like a gunfight.

Nancy Botox was given the first chance to empty her gun. She chose to bring a derringer that produced two shots. Now she is holding those shots from getting to her target, while holding the empty derringer in a threatening manner.

The House did not impeach their President. The House can not impeach a President. It is a process that has not been completed. The House can only pass Articles of Impeachment, ... which must go to the Senate for trial. If you want a President impeached.

Even the House Dumbs own Constitutional scholar witness has the same view, as posted in some op-ed in some liberal 'rag'.

Now, it is Cocaine Mitch's shot.
cliffw DEC 20, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:
So if they do impeach him and null this term he could run for two more



Hmm.
Very interesting question !

A President is bound by term limits. Two terms.
Tony Kania DEC 20, 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by cliffw:


Gosh Tony, to me, you come off like a NFL lineman sacking the quarterback in the second quarter. The game ain't over. It's going to get more interesting in the second half.

Or not. ? More on that later.
...




Proudly.

I believe that you know where I stand. I am not interested in the first half, let alone the second half. But, I must pay attention.

Tony Kania DEC 20, 12:06 PM
"It is a sad day..."

I would like to remind you again that muslims are not what we are. Sharia law has no welcome here.

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Rickady88GT DEC 20, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

There are some constitutional scholars who are of the opinion that until the Articles of Impeachment are handed to the senate, there is no impeachment. Trump may not yet be the third president to be impeached.
I am not sure I agree, but it is something to ponder.



Honestly, I do not know for a fact if he needs to have a trial from the Senate to be considered "impeached". But the more I think about it, the more it makes sense to require a Senate trail. Out on the streets, the everyday "Joe" can't be convicted of a crime without a trial, even though "suspicion" cost them time in Jail and charges brought up against them.... they are still not convicted of the crime till the proper due process has played out. And even then the process is so strict on "dotting the i's and crossing the t's" that the case against the person can be dropped, dismissed or appealed on the smallest of issues.
It just makes sense to me that the full process needs to be carried out to the end. Without an end to the process, Trump can't be legitimately declared "impeached". He technically can only be called "in the process of being impeached".
This is the equivalent of being accused of a crime, being arraigned to court, having the charges against you formally read: then dismissing the Courtroom before the Jury is selected.