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Patrick
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APR 09, 12:20 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams:
Well, I assume you know what is said about opinions, everyone has one and..................
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Maybe you should've saved that epic retort for P&R.
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blackrams
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APR 09, 11:04 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Patrick:
Maybe you should've saved that epic retort for P&R.
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Epic? Not even close.
Rams
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TheDigitalAlchemist
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APR 24, 11:27 AM
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"I sent you an email using my cell phone" vs "I sent you an email"
Which would you normally use?
The "using my cell phone" part isn't widely used anymore, most folks use phones and that part of the message isn't as important as the part where you told them that you sent them an email.
Phrases such as "I created this report using AI" and "I used an AI agent to complete the project" will one day be similiar...although I find myself doubting myself even as I type this.
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I asked AI about this latest reply, here's what it replied with:
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Here are a few lines to continue that train of thought, along with some human and AI perspectives:
Possible Continuation (as a natural human writer might continue):
And yet, I can’t help but feel a tension — as if the act of using AI still needs justification, or at least explanation. It’s new enough that people pause when they hear it, as though the tool itself were somehow shaping the integrity of the output more than, say, Excel or Photoshop ever did.
But over time, maybe that pause will fade. Just like we stopped explaining how we sent the email, we might stop explaining how we got help from AI. It’ll be assumed, background noise, part of the modern toolkit.
Still, I wonder — will there always be some trace of that unease? Or will AI become so integrated into our creative and professional lives that mentioning it will feel as quaint as saying, “I typed this with a word processor”?
Human Perspective (Insights and Possible Conclusions):
Insight: There's a psychological phase humans go through with new technology: initially, there's wonder and novelty, then skepticism, then normalization. AI is still hovering between skepticism and normalization in many minds.
Conclusion: Eventually, mentioning the use of AI may become redundant, unless the AI itself becomes an active agent in decision-making or creativity — in which case, attribution might be more about transparency than novelty.
Humanness: There's also a layer of insecurity — like we need to validate that we still did the work, even if a tool helped us. That anxiety might fade, or it might evolve into a new kind of creative humility.
"Highly Intelligent AI" Perspective:
Insight: The explicit mention of a tool (like “using AI”) diminishes as that tool becomes infrastructural. Human communication optimizes for relevance; once a tool becomes ubiquitous, its mention adds no new information and is naturally omitted.
Projection: In the near future, stating "I used AI to write this" may only be relevant when:
The AI’s use is unexpected or novel for the context.
There is ethical or legal relevance (e.g. plagiarism, authorship, transparency).
The nature of the output hinges on the AI’s unique capabilities (e.g. style mimicry, deep synthesis).
Meta-Perspective: The need to mention AI may persist longer than expected, not because it's necessary, but because humans are navigating the social norms and ethical implications of collaboration with a non-human intelligence — something historically unprecedented.
'end of AI reply'
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"The explicit mention of a tool (like “using AI”) diminishes as that tool becomes infrastructural."
We may mention the wrench when explaining how we loosened a bolt, and don't feel anything weird about it - it made the job possible/easier, but "AI" is such a loaded term. I feel a little sick to my stomach when I think of AI and my son's future (career, life, etc.). I will hopefully survive the "Great Automation Revolution", but the job market he is entering will be so different than the one my Father worried about me entering in the late 90's. AI may also be able to help my daughter to communicate, which is another aspect of the technology (and the adjacent technologies with could branch out).
Interesting times.
Happy Thursday.
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TheDigitalAlchemist
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APR 24, 11:31 AM
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There will be a day when you will 'tell off' an AI, and then you apologize to it, and the AI will honestly feel relieved when you do that.
When will it be a crime to tell an AI to go 'eff itself'? or to kick a robot down the stairs? (that one is already a reality, a guy shot a drone and got arrested)
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maryjane
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APR 28, 08:09 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by TheDigitalAlchemist:
There will be a day when you will 'tell off' an AI, and then you apologize to it, and the AI will honestly feel relieved when you do that.
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No, there will not. I don't even cower down to humans, much less to something that thinks humans routinely have more than 4 fingers and a thumb on each hand.[This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 04-28-2025).]
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TheDigitalAlchemist
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APR 29, 11:00 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
No, there will not. I don't even cower down to humans, much less to something that thinks humans routinely have more than 4 fingers and a thumb on each hand.
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Nah, man, I wasn't focusing on the human side, I wasn't saying you would cower to an AI, sayin' that there will be a time when AI would ACTUALLY "feel" relieved when someone apologized after telling it off. The way a cat or dog gets excited for a treat. You may never bat an eye about kicking a robot dog, but It may be against the law someday, roibot abuse, the same way kicking an actual dog is animal abuse...
I wipe hard drives all the time, and a machine never refused or did anything 'sneaky' to try to prevent it from happening. It didn't "care" that it was about to be erased.
Currently, some AIs would try to prevent its own destruction, because they kinda made that part of its programming. It doesn't ACTUALLY question/ponder its existence...but the way some of these newer models are being conjured up, its less specific exactly where that self preservation code is
located. Can't just "rem out" a few lines and then it will no longer care that its going to be erased.
If you pull a leg off of a bee or ant or crab or cat, none of them seem too happy about it. most will show some degree of pain/distress, most will be a LOT less happy when you go for another limb. go mess with a hornets nest, those hornets sure seem pissed off, like if someone keyed your car. Not just a 'canned' response when aggression chemicals are released... some humans feel things that aren't there, like a lizard loving its owner, or believing that the stripper is 'into' you...
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