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Valkrie9
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JAN 09, 09:00 PM
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[ Joe Rogan on California wildfire Dec 12, '24 ] [ Joe Rogan’s LA wildfire prediction , July '24 ] A Fire-Man made the analyzed projection to Joe prior to 2012, likely on set as a professional fire consultant. From the Mountains to the Sea ! fjb too
.. . Why aren't the news channel's talking heads projecting total destruction ? ' From the mountains to the sea ' burnt to ashes, a real possibility, nothing to stop the scourge of the fires sweeping across the cities. What ? You're going to put the fires out with your wit ? A sharp retort ? Incandescent heat, totaling the LA Basin, mad arsonist gangs, clandestine Russian terrorists, tossing phosphorus incendiaries into the winds, lighting up the suburbs, overwhelming first responders, the scale far too great. 1906, 'Frisco burnt to ashes during the Quake, the Central Valley flooded in 1862, and the Cascadia M9 will destroy all of the West coast in a few hours, they predict, soon, don't know when exactly, but soon, relatively speaking. You are Doomed ! Sinners Repent ! smh ! It's not like Gavin can do anything to put the fires out, he wouldn't want to ruin his coif, his stylist would be upset. Yeah, it's biblical in scale, a visit to Dante's Inferno, the city of Hades. Satan standing atop the mountain, sweeping his forearm in a vast horizon, napalm lighting up the metropolis end to end. Maybe, a script writer could make a movie about his visit to California and his subjugation of Nancy and Gavin, his minions. ' Yes Master, We will let it burn ! ' ' We are as Phucked as Phucked can be ! ' ' What's the worst that could happen if we empty the reservoirs ? ' Get used to the idea that it will get worse, like, by tomorrow, Friday January 10, '25 fjb and to 'ell with Newsom too.
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blackrams
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JAN 09, 10:56 PM
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Will the voting citizens of California hold Newsom accountable? Destroying Dams, not allowing any new reservoirs, allowing a board to basically run insurance corporations out of the state.
Newsom wants to be our next President, if elected will he do for the US what he's done to California?
------------------ Rams Learning most of life's lessons the hard way. .  You are only young once but, you can be immature indefinitely.[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 01-10-2025).]
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Valkrie9
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JAN 10, 05:39 AM
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 One on One with Newsom and Bass
Could it get more phucked up ? Stand back and watch this ! Roaming gangs of arsonists, clandestine Russian agents, driving around LA with incendiary mortars mounted in 3/4 ton trucks, Setting the LA basin on fire, acts of war, surprise attack ! ' What are we gonna do Sarge ? What are we gonna do ? ' Hiroshima, Nagasaki and Tokyo, burnt. Yeah, maybe the sheet will hit the fan !
[This message has been edited by Valkrie9 (edited 01-10-2025).]
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olejoedad
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JAN 10, 08:47 AM
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blackrams
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JAN 10, 08:55 AM
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That seems worthy of quoting:
| quote | LA is burning. And the derelict people responsible are worried that they are found out as charlatans and empty suits.
The leftwing voters who enabled them are getting angry over the inferno that their chosen politicos green-lighted—as if they are shocked, shocked by the consequences of their voting.
The dam buster Nero Newsom made his accustomed fiddling appearance and then split—when the media began pointing out that he prohibits new reservoirs, sends precious water out to sea, blows up dams, prevents precautionary gleaning of forests and chaparrals, and then usually blames “Climate change” or “Trump” when called to account.
Poor Karen Bass was DEI-ing in Uganda after being previously warned that lack of rain, record winds, and kindling-like hillsides put her city in existential danger: Out of sight, out of mind.
Or did she junket across the world to consult about fire prevention with Ghana’s new president?
Was slashing nearly $18 million from the $50 billion city budget, after bragging about creating “451 new positions” in various woke/DEI fields, a way to prevent 25-square miles of Dresden-like desolation?
The embattled Fire Chief Kristen Crowley for two years has bragged not of response time, not of preventive strategies to stop fires, not of slashed budgets and water shortages, but instead about her DEI credentials as the “first” (fill in the blanks) LGBTQ etc. woman, who has hired “70 percent” of her force as either nonwhite, or nonmale, or nonbinary, or non-old fashioned, tough-guy firefighters.
The LA utility head? Usually AWOL. The permanent director of LA infrastructure is usually quickly fired or resigns for incompetence, bribery, or malfeasance.
Joe Biden? He was there—but only to try to put thousands of acres of federal land off-limits to roadblock the evil incoming Trump administration.
Did Joe have ideas to save LA? Maybe, but as usual he talked instead about himself—in this case his new great-great grandson and the miraculous salvation of his grandkid’s house (not the 1100 structures that then were ashes). And then he left, dispirited that his last junket to Italy may have to be cancelled.
Kamala Harris, our vice president?
Remember her during the 2024 campaign and how she rushed to Florida to glom onto Gov. De Santis’s masterful performance in dealing with record flooding?
Nowhere was the LA resident to be seen, as she too plans next week a last minute multimillion-dollar freebie junket.
What is the attitude of these “public servants” in times of existential crisis?
Maybe it’s: “Ashes, ashes, all fall down”…. |
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Thanks for sharing it.
Rams
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blackrams
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JAN 10, 08:56 AM
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Oops, sorry about the double posting.
Rams[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 01-25-2025).]
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blackrams
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JAN 10, 10:43 AM
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Here is why California can’t use ocean water to help fight the wildfires
[URL=https://www.msn.com/en-us/weather/topstories/here-is-why-california-can-t-use-ocean-water-to-help-fight-the-wildfires/ar-BB1rb78Y?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=986cd537bfab41a7ba90e787b471d4e8&ei=15]https://www.msn.com/en-us/w...90e787b471d4e8&ei=15[/URL ]
| quote | Fire officials in Los Angeles have run into a serious snag while trying to contain the nearly half-dozen blazes threatening the city - questions about the water supply.
Wildfires currently cover more than 27,000 acres of Los Angeles County. Five people have died and more than 1,000 structures have been destroyed since the wildfires began. Governor Gavin Newsom told CNN on Wednesday that the county had "depleted all of our resources," and that fire hydrants were completely tapped.
"Those hydrants are typical for two or three fires, maybe one fire. And then you have something at this scale," he told Anderson Cooper.
Satellite imagery of the fires shows them burning only miles away from L.A.'s Pacific Ocean shoreline. How could firefighters run out of water when there's a massive body of it just down the road?
The simple answer is: it's not that simple.
Sea water, in theory, could be used to help a fire. But, its salty components can do more harm than good, which is why firefighters typically avoid using it unless absolutely necessary.
Salt is corrosive, and it can damage metal equipment, including critical equipment in water dumping planes and fire pumps.
According to Technology.org, salt can also reduce the cooling effect of water, meaning salt water can be less efficient as a firefighting tool. Salt water also carries a charge better than fresh water, making it slightly more dangerous for firefighters.
Environmental health is also a concern for fire officials considering the use of salt water for battling blazes. When salt water is dumped in large quantities on a fire, that salt has to go somewhere — typically, into the ground, or it's washed into nearby bodies of water.
Introducing large quantities of salt to areas with significant vegetation — as one might expect at the site of a wildfire — is almost always detrimental.
Raising soil salinity — the salt content of an area's soil — makes it harder for plants to draw water and nutrients from the soil via osmosis. Salt can also make the soil toxic, hamper seedling growth and harm the general permeability — how easily water and nutrients can move through the earth — of the soil.
All of that said, firefighters do sometimes use salt water to fight fires; they just have to be careful and selective about when to employ those methods.
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Hmm  Given the choice of saving thousands of homes and protecting lives and property, I'm thinking I'd be telling them to tap into the ocean to help put these fires out. It seems to me that the 6 Ps are applicable here. Proper Planning Prevent Piss Poor Performance. Destroying four dams and not allowing reservoirs to be constructed, not allowing rainwater to be captured and held seems a bit retarded to me. But at least those little fish are good to go. The lack of available home/fire insurance is also a major factor. I sincerely hope Californians figure out who is responsible for the total lack of leadership. One can only imagine how this fire might have been controlled had there only been sufficient water available. The insurance companies saw this coming apparently. ------------------ Rams Learning most of life's lessons the hard way. .  You are only young once but, you can be immature indefinitely.[This message has been edited by blackrams (edited 01-11-2025).]
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cliffw
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JAN 10, 01:45 PM
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I am actually living in San Antonio, I just do not want to admit it. I still own my dirt in Bandera.
Locally I have seen four different colored fire hydrants. Red, silver, yellow, and black. I used to wonder "whats up".
It turns out that they are color coded, for different abilities. Some with no pressure (black), meaning you would need a pump truck which could suck water and also discharge. Red is city water pressure fed. I have not researched yellow or silver.
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Notorio
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JAN 11, 12:12 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by blackrams: Will the voting citizens of California hold Newsom accountable? ...
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In a word: 'No.'
| quote | Originally posted by blackrams: Destroying Dams, not allowing any new reservoirs, allowing a board to basically run insurance corporations out of the state. ...
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FYI, CA voters approved $ for a new reservoir more than 20 years ago. Now it is (inconveniently) true that not one shovel of dirt has been turned over, yet, but that is because various special interests are ensuring we don't harm our environment ...
| quote | Originally posted by blackrams: Newsom wants to be our next President, if elected will he do for the US what he's done to California?
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You are under the misapprehension that a Californian needs to be President to accomplish that mission. As the world's fifth largest economy, California has been pushing its stupid policy onto the rest of the country for the last 40 years, with Blue States following the leader. A President Newsome would certainly accelerate the process, but it is happening already. This is why California needs to be saved from itself or the rest of the country is doomed.
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Notorio
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JAN 11, 12:20 AM
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It's early days for facts coming out (before they can be buried or burned) but here is an interesting article from the LA Times (which used to be a staunchly Republican paper back in the day ...):
Reservoir Repair -- With All The Speed of Government
I like the part where without analysis officials are sure that having a FULL reservoir in the middle of the Pacific Palisades inferno 'wouldn't have made much difference.'
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