Talk about a dytopian nightmare (Page 2/3)
fredtoast JUL 26, 04:22 PM

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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

So you are happy to be herded by any corporation that wants to ?




1. I don't consider scanning an app a sacrifice or burden

2. I don't believe that businesses should be regulated just to staunch the tears of whimpering luddites.
MidEngineManiac JUL 26, 04:35 PM

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Originally posted by fredtoast:
1. I don't consider scanning an app a sacrifice or burden



Any compulsory action is a burden. It takes away free choice.


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2. I don't believe that businesses should be regulated just to staunch the tears of whimpering luddites.



So a grocery store should be able to FORCE you to own a smart-phone AND CARRY IT WITH YOU, and do business with a cell carrier ? The corpocracy has beyond "crossed the line" in taking control of individual lives. But you are right, regulation isnt the appropriate response. Execution of the board is.

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Yes, I own one. No I don't carry it with me, it generally stays at home. I refuse to be location-tracked and where I am going or have been is nobodies business but mine. ESPECIALLY not google or da goobernment. Dont really give a damn how many "policies" or "terms and conditions" or "regulations' or "laws" that violates. They can go eff themselves.

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ls3mach AUG 01, 10:45 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

I've heard/read that quite a few places around Austin Tx are going card only, no cash. Reasons vary. New age hippy type restaurants mostly.



Six Flags and all of their parks have been for at least 3 years. Reverse ATMs in the large buildings. Tickets the same way.

I could talk about security ad nauseum, which also is to the point: if you don't like it shop elsewhere. The app even more so. I don't eat at McDonald's or have their app. Same with every other fast food joint. It isn't a big deal to me. On the rare occasion I get fast food I almost always go in and to a person. I don't carry a ton of cash, so I do pay with my card. I used to "tap to pay" (specifically Samsung pay and MST) long before everyone was doing it. I stopped because they took away the rewards. It was close to $50 a month. Incentive to get me hooked.

I have my suspicion that they are trying to rid us of non-digital transactions...and why not? I'm not a Judeo-Christian guy, but the bible has a lot of good insight. None in my mind related to a deity.

Mike I hope you have a great day. I like Aldi. Don't shop there often due to geography. My "poor" friend in college used to skip out on paying or leave his wallet. Aldi took daddy's Amex though and we used to make him load up.
MidEngineManiac AUG 01, 11:16 AM
The problem isnt the one store. or a theme park. or a burger joint. Not any one of them.

It's the overall trend of "going China" with the "social credit" and the technology is the means to do it.

Personally, I refuse to play the game. We have 2 grocery stores here, No Frills (Loblaws) and Walmart Supercenter. If both of of those chains jump on board with "the app crap" I will be driving an hour each way for groceries.
PhatMax AUG 01, 07:54 PM
It use to be a company selling anything to the public, in a walk in situation had to accept cash, it was illegal not to….10k fine from the treasury dept for not accepting cash. Forcing anybody into using goods and services they don’t want….or can afford, (interest rates) is B.S.
Credit cards or any credit system will set up people who haven’t had any basic training on good credit practices for failure in over extending their means.. imo
rinselberg AUG 01, 08:47 PM
Going "cashless" eliminates the carbon emissions and other environmental pollution that arises from the couriering and trucking of paper currency and coins between retail points of sale, collection centers and banks.
MidEngineManiac AUG 01, 09:37 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Going "cashless" eliminates the carbon emissions and other environmental pollution that arises from the couriering and trucking of paper currency and coins between retail points of sale, collection centers and banks.



Remember the early 70's Mopar small-blocks ?

Cross-over passages in the intake manifold would get clogged up with carbon and it wouldnt run right.

I think the exact same thing is happening to eco-wackos brains.
ls3mach AUG 16, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by PhatMax:

It use to be a company selling anything to the public, in a walk in situation had to accept cash, it was illegal not to….10k fine from the treasury dept for not accepting cash. Forcing anybody into using goods and services they don’t want….or can afford, (interest rates) is B.S.
Credit cards or any credit system will set up people who haven’t had any basic training on good credit practices for failure in over extending their means.. imo



I thought I knew that when I was a kid. When did this change or is it now just like the weed laws?
TheDigitalAlchemist AUG 16, 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Going "cashless" eliminates the carbon emissions and other environmental pollution that arises from the couriering and trucking of paper currency and coins between retail points of sale, collection centers and banks.



That almost sounds crazy. But that's a lot of moving parts that will eventually just not be there anymore...

Just think about how many humans are involved with the production and transportation of cash. And the installation and maintenance of the machines that dispense it... That's a lotta jobs goin' away...


If humans were different, imagine a world where you could just walk around and not have to worry about any of the stuff that many folks worry about nearly constantly.

Healthcare. Finances. Job security. Getting mugged.

Its a messy world, and it'll always be messy.
williegoat AUG 16, 02:44 PM
What will we toss into the fountain? I predict a string of dashed wishes.