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IMSA GT
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DEC 09, 11:06 PM
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| quote | LRAD. Long Range Acoustic Device - aka Acoustic cannon, in one iteration? Guessing? Awesome! Never would have thought of that. Bet the neighbors love it.
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We had to contact all the neighbors, businesses, and local police agencies. We had a daily issue with homeless druggies cutting our fences and stealing copper or other items. The LRAD has a strobe, speaker, and a thermal and color camera. Once the person is observed doing something strange a strobe is placed around them and a voicedown is conducted. If they don't leave the LRAD is triggered and they run like hell holding their heads. After installing this, the entire neighborhood is now clean and the homeless druggies have moved on. The neighbors and police actually thank us for cleaning the area. Break-ins at the yard are down 95%.
We also purchased 2 of the Boston Dynamic dogs to test. They didn't work out too well as you could kick them and they couldn't get back up. We went a different route and had a private military company design custom robotic dogs that were wider that have LRAD attached to their body as well as several HD cameras.[This message has been edited by IMSA GT (edited 12-09-2022).]
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IMSA GT
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DEC 09, 11:23 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
Bullet proof walls would work, but not where the substations are in a valley with higher elevation surrounding it and the equipment right inside the substation isn't the only things vulnerable to a high powered rifle projectile. And even a 1/2 ass marksman can hit a tranfsormer, other gear or even an insulator from 300+ yards and up to 1/4 mile away with any good .270. |
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Correct. To add to the protection, we use a system of microphones that hear the gunshot, then hear the bullet traveling through the air. They do an analysis and give us the coordinates of the shooters location. It's accurate to about 20 feet of the shooter. Then we can dispatch local authorities to the location. Similar to what the military uses such as Boomerang or WarriorX systems for the troops.
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Raydar
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DEC 10, 11:13 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by IMSA GT:
We had to contact all the neighbors, businesses, and local police agencies. We had a daily issue with homeless druggies cutting our fences and stealing copper or other items. The LRAD has a strobe, speaker, and a thermal and color camera. Once the person is observed doing something strange a strobe is placed around them and a voicedown is conducted. If they don't leave the LRAD is triggered and they run like hell holding their heads. After installing this, the entire neighborhood is now clean and the homeless druggies have moved on. The neighbors and police actually thank us for cleaning the area. Break-ins at the yard are down 95%. ...
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Outstanding!
| quote | ... To add to the protection, we use a system of microphones that hear the gunshot, then hear the bullet traveling through the air. They do an analysis and give us the coordinates of the shooters location. It's accurate to about 20 feet of the shooter. Then we can dispatch local authorities to the location. Similar to what the military uses such as Boomerang or WarriorX systems for the troops.
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I'll bet it all costs a fortune. And probably worth every penny.
Is it somewhat portable? After the "problems" leave the neighborhood, can it be redeployed elsewhere?
We didn't really have any malicious sabotage that I know of, but we did have a LOT of copper theft. If the crackheads worked as hard at working as they did trying to steal copper, they could probably earn six figures.[This message has been edited by Raydar (edited 12-10-2022).]
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IMSA GT
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DEC 10, 11:53 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
I'll bet it all costs a fortune. And probably worth every penny.
Is it somewhat portable? After the "problems" leave the neighborhood, can it be redeployed elsewhere?
We didn't really have any malicious sabotage that I know of, but we did have a LOT of copper theft. If the crackheads worked as hard at working as they did trying to steal copper, they could probably earn six figures.
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None of the equipment is portable and it does cost a fortune. To give you an idea, in the picture I posted, that microphone mast costs $15,000, just for the mast with no microphones attached. Each microphone costs $1,000 so on a mast that has 7 microphones we pay $22,000 total. Multiple masts are needed to cover the vital equipment at substations so it adds up very quickly. Then you need the server with the software to monitor each site.
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Raydar
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DEC 10, 12:10 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by IMSA GT:
None of the equipment is portable and it does cost a fortune. To give you an idea, in the picture I posted, that microphone mast costs $15,000, just for the mast with no microphones attached. Each microphone costs $1,000 so on a mast that has 7 microphones we pay $22,000 total. Multiple masts are needed to cover the vital equipment at substations so it adds up very quickly. Then you need the server with the software to monitor each site. |
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Is NERC (or anyone else) offering a grant for this, since it's being done for security/reliability? I would hope so. ("Nunya" is an acceptable answer. I get it.)
Edit - In your part of the world, it might be WECC. But I'm guessing that either entity is more like, "Thou shalt..." as opposed to actually, you know, helping.[This message has been edited by Raydar (edited 12-10-2022).]
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IMSA GT
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DEC 10, 01:18 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by Raydar:
Is NERC (or anyone else) offering a grant for this, since it's being done for security/reliability? I would hope so. ("Nunya" is an acceptable answer. I get it.)
Edit - In your part of the world, it might be WECC. But I'm guessing that either entity is more like, "Thou shalt..." as opposed to actually, you know, helping.
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Oh it's NERC and they love to throw their weight around but WE have to pay for it. They don't help us one bit. They simply make us spend money.
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olejoedad
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DEC 10, 02:36 PM
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So, automated machine guns aren't a cost effective option?
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MidEngineManiac
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DEC 10, 03:58 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by olejoedad:
So, automated machine guns aren't a cost effective option? |
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ROTOFFLMAO....
I been sayin the for 20 years Joe...but Nooooooo....nobody listens to the dumb redneck Cannuck.
Koreans did at one time...
Now THAS home-defense.
GET OFF MAH LAWN....and hands off my coffee !!!! !!!!
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blackrams
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DEC 14, 04:48 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by IMSA GT:
Correct. To add to the protection, we use a system of microphones that hear the gunshot, then hear the bullet traveling through the air. They do an analysis and give us the coordinates of the shooters location. It's accurate to about 20 feet of the shooter. Then we can dispatch local authorities to the location. Similar to what the military uses such as Boomerang or WarriorX systems for the troops.
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If, the system is that accurate, may I recommend drones with automated launch sequence to react, definitely with remote camera operation and preferably armed with remote controlled firing mechanisms.
Rams
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Raydar
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DEC 27, 10:15 AM
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