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MidEngineManiac
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FEB 04, 04:25 PM
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blackrams
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FEB 04, 04:33 PM
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I guess we'll see how long this lasts and how much good it will do.
I doubt it'll last long and will do any good but,
I was wrong once before. 
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MidEngineManiac
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FEB 04, 07:13 PM
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Fats
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FEB 04, 07:41 PM
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Yep, the group I'm in said that was gonna happen a week ago.
They were talking about the donators suing GoFundMe for changing where things were going. It could get interesting if the right person (cough cough Musk) can step in to throw some weight in there.
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Patrick
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FEB 04, 07:55 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:
Well, Well... GoFundMe has closed down the campaign for the truckers by calling it an "occupation"...
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Big surprise.
| quote | Originally posted by Patrick Here:
I notice you've conveniently ignored the fact that the GoFundMe account for this "protest" has been suspended.
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By the way, why have you started a second thread on the same subject?
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MidEngineManiac
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FEB 04, 08:27 PM
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Things evolved, but at the time Ram's thread was tactic-specific and this was meant to be more general.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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FEB 05, 08:58 AM
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There's a small, little-known part of the United State's Declaration of Independence...
...it goes something like this:
"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."
Governments forget who they serve, and people... who are fallible, get a little authoritarian when they come into power. They need to recognize... the only thing that holds their power is the will of the people. You break that will, and you lose your power.
What is the point of a vaccine mandate that we know does nothing for the variants that are out there? This is not about vaccines, and it's not about making people safe. This is 100% about power and control right now. Any logical person can see there's little benefit at this point to continue to push these mandates.
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MidEngineManiac
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FEB 05, 10:22 AM
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rinselberg
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FEB 05, 03:17 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
There's a small, little-known part of the United State's Declaration of Independence...it goes something like this:
"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."
Governments forget who they serve, and people... who are fallible, get a little authoritarian when they come into power. They need to recognize... the only thing that holds their power is the will of the people. You break that will, and you lose your power.
What is the point of a vaccine mandate that we know does nothing for the variants that are out there? This is not about vaccines, and it's not about making people safe. This is 100% about power and control right now. Any logical person can see there's little benefit at this point to continue to push these mandates. |
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Mandates . . . not mandates . . . but I cannot count myself among the people who "know that [the Covid vaccines] do nothing for the variants . . ."
I am of the opinion, based on what I've read and seen online and on TV, that the Covid vaccines and boosters are still very effective against the Omicron and other currently known variants, in terms of blunting the severity of Covid infections and tilting the scales of probability away from hospitalizations and severe cases, leaving only mildly symptomatic and asymptomatic infections as the more likely outcomes.
Covid vaccines don't have to protect you for the rest of your life. They work if they keep you alive and well until the next improvement in Covid vaccines becomes available to you. There's a lot of projects already underway to make sure that happens--the Covid vaccines and boosters of the not so distant future.
You could have a "Walt" in your future. A Spike Ferritin-based Covid vaccine that you'll call a "Walt" because of the connection it would have to the Army's Walter Reed Medical Research Institute. And it's not just Covid that's in the vaccine developers' crosshairs.[This message has been edited by rinselberg (edited 02-05-2022).]
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fierosound
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FEB 05, 05:52 PM
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It is the "get vaccinated, or lose your job" vaccine mandate across the country that is driving this.
Anyone who’s decided not to be vaccinated for whatever reason, is shamed and reviled as Lepers used to be.
They are losing their jobs, their businesses, being barred from public activities, and almost forced to jail themselves.
We have signs saying “No Unvaccinated” instead of the “No Jews” that Germany had.
Aside all the complaints in Ottawa, people in other countries would laugh to hear this protest being described as “lawless”.
In Europe, huge clashes with Police in military garb against protestors look like Middle-East war zones.
American BLM protests saw looting and burning-to-the-ground of inner-city cores (Trudeau supports the cause though).
https://www.ctvnews.ca/worl...ith-police-1.4961627
How to you turn a mostly peaceful protest into a riot? Bring in the “Riot Police”.
How aptly named, since the riot always starts once they’ve arrived and start bashing skulls.
Unfortunately, His Omnipotence, Justin Trudeau has basically NOT even acknowledged the Convoy Protest is taking place.
Sure, he has made condemnatory comments on images and comments of “the protestors” hand selected by the left wing news
media for maximum derision of the thousands of working people who don’t have those politically incorrect views.
Basically, he has said NOTHING otherwise.
Of course, Trudeau’s hard-headedness has painted himself into a corner.
His self-appointed position of Omnipotence will NOT allow him to budge now.
And making any concessions of any kind is now personal, and would be too big a blow to his ego.
The best we can hope for is some kind of announcement something like:
"Under the advice of The Chief Public Health Officer of Canada, Dr. Tam, Provincial Health Ministers and other health professionals across the
country, as well as new information from European countries, the effectiveness of continued vaccine mandates (get vaccinated or lose your job)
and Vaccine Passports no longer appear to have the effectiveness during this pandemic as they had up until now."
"While we still encourage everyone to get vaccinations and boosters, and maintaining diligence in personal Covid prevention,
we feel with 85% already vaccinated, the vaccine mandates are no longer effective and should be discontinued."
This would let Justin Trudeau off the hook as "someone else" made the decision.
(His favorite term these days is he's "only following the science")
And the Protest would be OVER....
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