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2.5
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JAN 18, 08:47 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
So... are you guys telling me that with 5G technology in development the past decade... the airline companies, and the manufacturers of all the equipment being used, only NOW have determined that 5G shares a frequency range with their hardware?
I know the US Government is totally inept, as are most governments, but please tell me that this is not news to the FCC, and that this was totally unexpected?
Because if this is a legitimate failure of the FCC, then the entire organization needs to be fired and started over |
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Im thinking its probly more of a, they all knew, reported concerns long ago, and were told something along the lines of deal with it we are rolling out 5g, we don't care. But Im no expert.
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blackrams
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JAN 18, 09:00 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
Im thinking its probly more of a, they all knew, reported concerns long ago, and were told something along the lines of deal with it we are rolling out 5g, we don't care. But Im no expert. |
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Very possible, frequently in government the left hand isn't talking to the right hand and I have no doubt the telecommunication companies don't consider it their problem.
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Hudini
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JAN 18, 09:15 PM
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| quote | Originally posted by 2.5:
Im thinking its probly more of a, they all knew, reported concerns long ago, and were told something along the lines of deal with it we are rolling out 5g, we don't care. But Im no expert. |
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This stuff is known long before anything is deployed. Remember LightSquared (Ligado Networks) and their 5G application to the FCC that might interfere with GPS signals? In 2020 the FCC approved it despite opposition from other government agencies.
https://www.gps.gov/spectrum/ligado/
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82-T/A [At Work]
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JAN 19, 10:32 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by Hudini:
This stuff is known long before anything is deployed. Remember LightSquared (Ligado Networks) and their 5G application to the FCC that might interfere with GPS signals? In 2020 the FCC approved it despite opposition from other government agencies.
https://www.gps.gov/spectrum/ligado/
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This is my argument... how can any of this be? Like I mentioned up top... the FCC is an international body, even if it is technically a US Commission. If these problems were known, how / why would they allow two critical pieces of infrastructure to be on competing frequencies? This isn't old DECT phones and baby monitors competing with Wifi or other crap... this is major telcom infrastructure competing with critical airline hardware... which goes through years of trials to pass regulation (I'd guess).
This seems like an enormous failure on the part of the FCC... that's why we have a 5-member commission. I'm not saying this is a left or right problem... was maybe even passed under Trump's commission majority... either way, this is an FCC failure, and likely one that will cost either the global telcom companies or the global airline industry a lot of money.
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maryjane
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JAN 19, 11:12 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
This is my argument... how can any of this be? Like I mentioned up top... the FCC is an international body, even if it is technically a US Commission. If these problems were known, how / why would they allow two critical pieces of infrastructure to be on competing frequencies? This isn't old DECT phones and baby monitors competing with Wifi or other crap... this is major telcom infrastructure competing with critical airline hardware... which goes through years of trials to pass regulation (I'd guess).
This seems like an enormous failure on the part of the FCC... that's why we have a 5-member commission. I'm not saying this is a left or right problem... was maybe even passed under Trump's commission majority... either way, this is an FCC failure, and likely one that will cost either the global telcom companies or the global airline industry a lot of money. |
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Because 5G's real purpose is for mind control of the populace, and very little to do with cell phone communications so all and any govt agencies are gonna approve 5g rollout no matter what little insignificant collateral damage may occur with a few airplanes.
I know this because I heard a youtube bubba explain it all, right after I watched the vid of how the vaccinations are implanting chips in all of those that get vacced and stuck to the side of their cars like giant arm flailing refrigerator magnets. They gotta hold them in one place while their DNA changes take place and turn 'em into the cabal of lizazrd headed, shape shifting army that's going to take over the world.
It's all part of the youtube promulgated master plan.
  [This message has been edited by maryjane (edited 01-19-2022).]
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blackrams
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JAN 19, 11:18 AM
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williegoat
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JAN 19, 11:27 AM
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I want a giant arm flailing refrigerator magnet.
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82-T/A [At Work]
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JAN 19, 11:38 AM
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| quote | Originally posted by maryjane:
Because 5G's real purpose is for mind control of the populace, and very little to do with cell phone communications so all and any govt agencies are gonna approve 5g rollout no matter what little insignificant collateral damage may occur with a few airplanes.
I know this because I heard a youtube bubba explain it all, right after I watched the vid of how the vaccinations are implanting chips in all of those that get vacced and stuck to the side of their cars like giant arm flailing refrigerator magnets. They gotta hold them in one place while their DNA changes take place and turn 'em into the cabal of lizazrd headed, shape shifting army that's going to take over the world.
It's all part of the youtube promulgated master plan.
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Hahah... well... I know 5G causes COVID, but aside from that, there are some benefits (for the Government) with 5G. Triangulation of devices (device location) will be easier as many homes will transition from copper POTS-linked DSL and internet, to 5G service for their home. I'd even expect a lot of fiber users who are getting 250/500/1000 Mbs might also transition to 5G for the increased output... what is it like 4 gigs throughput?
5G requires a larger roll-out, which means even better tower triangulation, even if you have settings to disable location services and artifacts that you're emanating. You can still be picked up... (if that's a concern). As with a lot of these things... encryption doesn't start at the first handshake, it's established after the fact, so you can "banner" devices, which means you can identify everything about a device that's connecting (or in the process of doing so) simply by sniffing the network traffic or collecting it in-air.
Nothing about mind control or COVID of course, haha... but it's a hurdle that we'll have to overcome. Biggest thing I'm concerned with is the idea that a lot of new devices (IOT) will likely reach out directly, rather than communicate through your network. For people who are a bit more concerned, and aware... probably not a problem. But a new Alexa that you're paying a service fee for, may choose to connect via 5G, and you'd never know that it was operating as such. You shut down your home router, and it'll still be connected. Like an iPad with cellular service enabled, or our phones. 5G, other than just being a better communication technology than previous cellular iterations, "allows for" a more decentralized approach to device connectivity... and that's both good and bad.
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steve308
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JAN 19, 11:50 AM
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I wonder if there's a vaccine to protect from 5G?
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82-T/A [At Work]
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JAN 19, 12:08 PM
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