Will anyone be charged for shooting 2 people (Page 2/6)
82-T/A [At Work] OCT 25, 09:46 PM
At the end of the day, the only reason why we care, or anyone cares... is because Alec Baldwin did it. Lots of people kill each other in Chicago every night, and no one bats an eye.

I doubt seriously that Alec Baldwin gets charged for anything, even though the New Mexico law, which is very liberal, is very clear about responsibility. I forget the exact words, but actions resulting in death, even if involuntary or accidental. So... if this was anyone else... you or me, we'd be charged already.

The District Attorney will simply refuse to prosecute, and more than likely, they'll charge the armorer with a misdemeanor... and we'll completely forget about it in a couple of weeks.
IMSA GT OCT 25, 10:37 PM
I'm still waiting to hear what the "projectile" was since everyone assumes it was a bullet. If it was a standard blank with wadding, that wadding is fatal at close range.
blackrams OCT 25, 11:07 PM

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Originally posted by IMSA GT:

I'm still waiting to hear what the "projectile" was since everyone assumes it was a bullet. If it was a standard blank with wadding, that wadding is fatal at close range.



While I suppose anything is possible, I'm not buying any story that says the projectile was a blank wadding or wax that penetrated and passed through a human body and into another causing them to be in critical condition.. That one is gonna have to be proven to me.

Reference the "shooter". Anyone can and frequently are charged with manslaughter when someone is killed even without premeditation, when it was by accident. The shooter (regardless of who it was) pointed a weapon in the direction of people and pulled the trigger resulting in someone's death. This kind of "accidental" death and injury happens all the time in different ways and people go to jail over it. Don't care who the shooter was, that person bears some responsibility.

Does anyone else find it even remotely hypocritical that an avid anti-gun advocate makes violent gun movies?

Rams

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randye OCT 25, 11:37 PM

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Originally posted by blackrams:


Does anyone else find it even remotely hypocritical that an avid anti-gun advocate makes violent gun movies?

Rams




It's another one of those multitude of instances of Leftist's "Don't do as I do. Do as I say".

Morals, rules and restrictions are for their servants and "the little people"
IMSA GT OCT 26, 12:16 AM

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Originally posted by blackrams:


While I suppose anything is possible, I'm not buying any story that says the projectile was a blank wadding or wax that penetrated and passed through a human body and into another causing them to be in critical condition.. That one is gonna have to be proven to me.



The only reason I say that is because anything is possible with these blanks. Here are some 44 blanks and you can see the crimp end. If the entire end fails and the crimp opens up into spikes and flies out of the gun, it would be like shrapnel.



Or one of the employees that walked off the set due to safety concerns decided to make a point by loading up a real round.

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Rickady88GT OCT 26, 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:

At the end of the day, the only reason why we care, or anyone cares... is because Alec Baldwin did it. Lots of people kill each other in Chicago every night, and no one bats an eye.

I doubt seriously that Alec Baldwin gets charged for anything, even though the New Mexico law, which is very liberal, is very clear about responsibility. I forget the exact words, but actions resulting in death, even if involuntary or accidental. So... if this was anyone else... you or me, we'd be charged already.

The District Attorney will simply refuse to prosecute, and more than likely, they'll charge the armorer with a misdemeanor... and we'll completely forget about it in a couple of weeks.


Maybe we can look forward to a new gun regulation or more from this,... we can call them the Baldwin gun laws.
Sarcastic, of course but it wouldn't surprise me if this make a new flury of gun hate.
Hudini OCT 26, 01:06 AM
The email from the armorer's union specifically stated it was a live round in a real gun. Not a "prop" gun at all.
Rickady88GT OCT 26, 07:15 AM

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Originally posted by Hudini:

The email from the armorer's union specifically stated it was a live round in a real gun. Not a "prop" gun at all.


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If this is true (and it probably is true) they won't stop calling it a prop. I think they should just call it a gun. Calling it a prop is just causing confusion. But LEO have a distion between a "duty" weapon (belonging to the department) and "off duty" ( their own personal property) so I unders6tand a reason for it. But I also understand a more sinister reason to call it a prop gun, and that is to seem like it is merely a toy gun. A malfunctioning toy that killed a person sounds a lot better for everyone involved.
Now IF it is a real gun, and people were shot, killed with it, what laws were violated, and will charges be filed?
Yes it was an accident, but it was a 100% available accident just by following simple rules.
blackrams OCT 26, 07:30 AM

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Originally posted by Rickady88GT:

Maybe we can look forward to a new gun regulation or more from this,... we can call them the Baldwin gun laws.
Sarcastic, of course but it wouldn't surprise me if this make a new flury of gun hate.



I'm sure some "new" gun laws and safety rules will be considered and maybe even passed. Won't do a damn bit of good if they are followed as the one's currently in place apparently are.

Rams
sourmash OCT 26, 08:55 AM
Alec is insane. It wouldn't surprise me if he did it in purpose. He's producing the movie and the dead woman was supposedly supporting the resistant workers that were off the set. IOWs, costing him money.

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