Did our universe escape from a lab? Why isn't the US intel community investigagating? (Page 2/5)
williegoat OCT 18, 02:51 PM
Cogito, ergo sum. Everything else is up for debate.
cliffw OCT 18, 04:45 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
Did our universe escape from a lab?



Yes, of course it did. The question is not if it did, the question is where did the lab come from.
randye OCT 18, 07:31 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:

His "theory" is a rehash of an old sci-fi short story....




YUP

"Surface Tension" is a science fiction short story by American writer James Blish, originally published in the August 1952 edition of Galaxy Science Fiction magazine..

Plot summary

A human colonization ship crash-lands on a distant planet which is Earth-like but whose only landmass is completely covered in shallow puddles of water and mostly microscopic life forms. Normal humans could not survive on this planet, so the crew must genetically engineer their descendants into something that can survive. (Blish coined the term pantropy to refer to this concept.) They create a race of microscopic aquatic humanoids to complete their mission and colonize the planet.

The majority of the story concerns one group of these genetically engineered colonists and their intelligence, curiosity, and evolving technology. In particular, the tiny aquatic humanoids develop a "space ship", or rather "air ship", which enables them to pierce the previously impenetrable surface tension of the water and travel through what is, to them, hostile space—open air—to other worlds in other puddles of water.

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rinselberg OCT 18, 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by olejoedad:
His [Avi Loeb's] "theory" is a rehash of an old sci-fi short story....


No. His little essay that I posted at the start of this thread may remind people of science fiction that they have read or seen, but I don't think it can fairly be called science fiction. I would call it highly theoretical and barely constrained scientific speculation. But not "science fiction."

I have my reason(s) for creating this topic, but a belief on my part in the veracity of "our universe is a science project created by the inhabitants of some other universe" is not one of them.

Keep in mind that the brief essay that I posted from Avi Loeb is part of the "Opinion" section of Scientific American. It's not a peer-reviewed research report for "Nature" or some other professional scientific journal.

Whatever my reason(s), this forum topic has fairly thrived, relative to many of its contemporaries in Totally O/T.

I don't regret having created it.

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williegoat OCT 18, 08:24 PM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I don't regret having created it.



The topic or the universe?


(I have been madly in love with Teri Garr since I was 13 years old)

maryjane OCT 18, 11:45 PM

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They create a race of microscopic aquatic humanoids to complete their mission and colonize the planet.



Not SciFi. We've all seen the results of that interplanetary sojourn. $1.25, (or 2 cereal boxtops) sent to Battle Creek Michigan and you've got the real deal.

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randye OCT 19, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:


I would call it highly theoretical and barely constrained scientific speculation. But not "science fiction."







When you try to convince everyone that your IQ is 200 but it's actually 63, or below, you are very likely a rinselberg.


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Definition

science fiction


: fiction dealing principally with the impact of actual or imagined, (a/k/a speculative), science on society or individuals or having a scientific factor as an essential orienting component


Do we need to also provide you with the definitions of the words "speculative" and "imagined"?

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maryjane OCT 19, 12:55 AM
randye OCT 19, 01:06 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:


Not SciFi. We've all seen the results of that interplanetary sojourn. $1.25, (or 2 cereal boxtops) sent to Battle Creek Michigan and you've got the real deal.




THIS was the really creepy part of it:



Just the thought of weird, alien, aquatic "monkeys" that wanted to make sure that I was personally "pleased" was more than a little unnerving.

(who knew that brine shrimp were so willing to accommodate....)

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williegoat OCT 19, 05:29 AM

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Originally posted by maryjane:



I knew I had seen that, but I couldn't remember where. I had to ask the great oracle at Google.