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blackrams SEP 07, 07:08 PM

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Originally posted by LitebulbwithaFiero:


Do you know if you got the vaccine vs the placebo?



My wife and I both got the vaccine. It was a blind study and we didn't know for about 7 months but, Moderna decided to let everyone know and those who got the placebo were offered the vaccine if they wanted it. I was contractually obligated to not discuss the research and am still under that agreement but, nothing I've said here violates that agreement. But, I can say that I thought for months that I got the placebo. I had almost no reaction. A slightly sore arm at the injection site but, that was it. My wife's reaction was very similar.


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Originally posted by MidEngineManiac:

https://www.lifesitenews.co...t-vaers-report-says/



Oh, you mean that reporting system they set up where anyone could report anything without anything to back up their claim and with absolutely no medical qualifications. Yeah, I looked into that. I especially enjoyed the report that one man made about growing a third arm that kept slapping him at night waking him up and it was claimed to be a result of the vaccine. Yeah, I put a lot of stock in that.


Rams

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gtjoe SEP 07, 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by blackrams:


Oh, you mean that reporting system they set up where anyone could report anything without anything to back up their claim and with absolutely no medical qualifications. Yeah, I looked into that. I especially enjoyed the report that one man made about growing a third arm that kept slapping him at night waking him up and it was claimed to be a result of the vaccine. Yeah, I put a lot of stock in that.


Rams




Is it still funny when you realize that that laughable system is the ONLY realy way of tracking Adverse reactions to Vaccines in the US by our Public health system? Yeah that's the best data we have let that sink in.

ps previous studies have indicated that the biggest problem with VAERS is the under reporting of adverse events. By a significant amount.

Raydar SEP 07, 08:24 PM
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sourmash SEP 07, 08:53 PM
They stacked the deck by allowing placebo takers to get the real shot. Now if they develop a long term side effect it gets scored as a placebo side effect so it offsets an injection side effect.


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Originally posted by gtjoe:


Is it still funny when you realize that that laughable system is the ONLY realy way of tracking Adverse reactions to Vaccines ingut the US by our Public health system? Yeah that's the best data we have let that sink in.

ps previous studies have indicated that the biggest problem with VAERS is the under reporting of adverse events. By a significant amount.



Ditto that. All discussion says that can be as.low as only 10% recorded. They also don't allow long term smokers to report is my understanding. What ever a long term smoker is?

Another report said a death less than 14 days after the injection is not counted.

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blackrams SEP 07, 09:21 PM

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Originally posted by sourmash:

They stacked the deck by allowing placebo takers to get the real shot. Now if they develop a long term side effect it gets scored as a placebo side effect so it offsets an injection side effect.


Ditto that. All discussion says that can be as.low as only 10% recorded. They also don't allow long term smokers to report is my understanding. What ever a long term smoker is?

Another report said a death less than 14 days after the injection is not counted.




They??? Another report???? My goodness your scientific data is truly amazing. Don't forget to post some of the click bait sites backing up your claims.



Have fun, take the path you wish, it really doesn't matter to me. Provide us with some real, reliable data and maybe you'll have some credibility. The problem is, the numbers/percentages are not supporting your position. Before you say it, we've all been duped and those folks in the hospital/ICUs are just faking it. Those dead folks were gonna die anyway. Reference the dead folks, you're correct, eventually we're all going to die.
Just so you know, I am completely against mandated vaccines. If you don't want to take preventative precautions, then go for it. That applies to even my friends. I just think it's reckless to not try. To reiterate, I am not telling anyone they should make the same decision as I have. Look at the "reliable" information out there and chose your path.

Rams

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sourmash SEP 08, 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by blackrams:They??? Another report???? My goodness your scientific data is truly amazing. Don't forget to post some of the click bait sites backing up your claims.



Pretty sure everyone can clearly see that Moderna and Phizer are still the companies being discussed in my statement as "they".

You didn't consider how allowing you to take an injection later is stacking the pool of placebo recipients who will now develop the same long term side effects? You just thought they were being nice to you because they care. No. 1) It makes it easier for the FDA to (politically) approve the injections when data models placebo and injected groups more similarly. 2) It will give 'them' an ability to better deny legal actions in future litigation from vaccine injured people after the injections are approved.
Well, the placebo group got similar ADE and heart conditions. Congrats on playing your part in future obfuscation for Big Pharm when they will deny vaccine injured people compensation.


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Just so you know, I am completely against mandated vaccines. If you don't want to take preventative precautions, then go for it. That applies to even my friends. I just think it's reckless to not try.
To reiterate, I am not telling anyone they should make the same decision as I have. Look at the "reliable" information out there and chose your path.



You're the one taking an experimental injection, one that is admittedly killing and maiming people. Bill Gates has long expressed a desire to manipulate the population through vaccines. To you, that can't be acknowledged.

I'm the one who's been saying to look at the data and make an informed decision. For almost everyone, it's just the flu, bro.
Fauci's staff, the CDC staff too, are not injected in a large percentage. Nurses are quitting when mandated to get jabbed.

Where did you post your source that they are wrong? Where is your source stating not taking an injection is reckless when the survival rate is 99.9x% for most of the population in the world?

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Steel SEP 08, 10:41 AM