Georgia voting law? (Page 2/4)
maryjane APR 08, 03:25 PM
If I understand all I read, poll watchers (and others) in Ga can no longer hand out anything to the voters at official election locations or drop off boxes except official correspondence that is directly related to the voting process. Poll watchers are not only or always part of the official county/state administration. Quite often, each side of the political spectrum will have their own poll watchers present keeping an eye on everything that goes on. (I can't speak for how it is or has been in Georgia)
This change I assume, is to remove even the appearance of impropriety in regards to vote influence.
I have seen in different places in my life, poll watchers of one side or another handing out everything from bottled drinks, to sliced pizza, and even coupons redeemable down the street & good for 'una cerveza fría'.

By using the phrase 'self service' I took it to mean either a water fountain or a table with bottled water just sitting on it as the voter passed by.
I did read on one source, that a water station can have no writing or signage stating who provided the water.

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LitebulbwithaFiero APR 08, 03:29 PM

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Originally posted by Rickady88GT:
Doesn't the law say that pole watchers can distribute water?

If the State chooses to set up a water stand.....it is an allowance in the text of the law. Am I wrong?




They can set up self serve water, but they cannot hand the water to the voters.


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Originally posted by rinselberg:

Great question--for me.


I didn't think anyone had ever gone by the name "Ilya" since the Illya Kuryakin character in the long ago Man From U.N.C.L.E. television series, but here's the Cato Institute's Ilya (just one 'l") Shapiro expounding on the reaction to Georgia's new election law.

"Georgia Election‐​Law Backlash Exposes Outrageous Double Standard"

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Ilya Shapiro for the Cato Institue; April 5, 2021.
https://www.cato.org/commen...eous-double-standard

I have not perused this commentary, but I do expect that within it, Ilya Shapiro comes down on the side of more exact requirements for voter ID. A more Republican-leaning way of thinking.

Here's Ilya Shapiro yesterday, in a conversation about it with MSNBC anchor Chris Hayes.

"Shades Of Jim Crow: How GOP Is Using The 'Big Lie' To Roll Back Voting Access"
All In With Chris Hayes of MSNBC; April 7, 2021.
YouTube video content; 12+ minutes.
https://youtu.be/CVbsB_ftgZQ




So in far far far less words, like I could describe my whole day and still rephrase it in lesss words- it is racist to require photo ID to vote because a few people describe it as a new Jim Crow style law?

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blackrams APR 08, 03:45 PM
Throwing the race card always gets the media's attention and thusly one side or another gets excited causing everyone to have a stressful day. Drama gets folks attention and that sells news papers, magazines and commercials on television.

Rams
Rickady88GT APR 08, 03:45 PM
Ok, thanks for the info on the water. Basically there is no pandering or influencing voters in line. But a neutral party an provide food or water, including the State or County as long as there is no campaigning attached to it?

What about the other issues that keep coming up? Suppression and voting drop boxes and restrictions and Sundays and number of early voting days?
Jake_Dragon APR 08, 06:05 PM
I don't know where it is but at one time I had a Florida voters registration card, you couldn't vote without one.
williegoat APR 08, 06:40 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

I don't know where it is but at one time I had a Florida voters registration card, you couldn't vote without one.


Don't worry about it, some guy from Guatemala took care of it for you.
82-T/A [At Work] APR 08, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon:

I don't know where it is but at one time I had a Florida voters registration card, you couldn't vote without one.




You don't use that anymore. I don't even think they issue them anymore. The card (if they do), is just to show what precint you belong to, and where your voting location is... e.g. U23, etc. They ask for a photo ID. That can even include a credit card that has your photo on it.. but in doing so, you must also show something else that does have your signature on it, like a social security card. Basically... they require a drivers license.
blackrams APR 08, 08:01 PM

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Originally posted by 82-T/A [At Work]:
You don't use that anymore. I don't even think they issue them anymore. The card (if they do), is just to show what precint you belong to, and where your voting location is... e.g. U23, etc. They ask for a photo ID. That can even include a credit card that has your photo on it.. but in doing so, you must also show something else that does have your signature on it, like a social security card. Basically... they require a drivers license.



OMG!!!! We all know that minorities don't have driver's licenses.................................... Oops, wrong again.
Actually, GA will accept quite a few different forms of id. But in each case, it's got to be something that can prove who you are one way or another and have the right to vote there.
OMG!!! That's so racist NOT.

Rams
82-T/A [At Work] APR 08, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by blackrams:


OMG!!!! We all know that minorities don't have driver's licenses.................................... Oops, wrong again.
Actually, GA will accept quite a few different forms of id. But in each case, it's got to be something that can prove who you are one way or another and have the right to vote there.
OMG!!! That's so racist NOT.

Rams




I am 100% OK with requiring a government-issued picture ID that proves you are a citizen, and to prevent voter fraud. Just wanted to make sure that was clear.

The best video I saw... and I'll see if I can find it... was a bunch of young white kids on a college campus LITERALLY saying that black people were too stupid to figure out how to get on the internet, and therefore need our (white people's) help and why picture ID laws are racist. I could not believe what I was hearing... I rarely feel uncomfortable seeing things, but man. What these kids think is just so outrageous and idiotic.
rinselberg APR 08, 10:38 PM
Quantum encryption or quantum cryptography.

For voter ID and other aspects of elections security.

That's what I was reaching for, the last time I checked in here.

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