Eviction Moratorium Unconstitutional (Page 2/4)
MidEngineManiac FEB 27, 01:46 PM
When it comes to business and money and...

Some of them need an attitude adjustment, a punch in the face, and nipples burned off with an electrode.

Long time ago, dude, but I've had more than my share of run-ins with them.

I had one try and tell me I'd think what I was told, do what I was told, eat what I was told and wear what I was told.....24/6/365

Go screw yourself ****

Late 90's place in Toronto...900 bucks for an illegal basement apartment, and this cow is trying to tell me I cant fry bacon because it smells or have girls over because her kid hears the sex upstairs...

Kiss my ass, **** , and go back to whatever Serbian hole you crawled out of !!!!

Ya got your 900 bucks, now shut the **** up and go the **** away.

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blackrams FEB 27, 01:57 PM

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Originally posted by Old Lar:

My cousin has a rental property and renter just stopped paying rent, yet my cousin has to pay the taxes etc on the property.



Luckily (I assume), his property is paid for and taxes are the only things he responsible for. The three folks I mentioned previously all have bank loan on their property. All three have been using their savings until that was used up and then borrowed money to keep up on their payments until that well ran dry. I'm told all three will be going under this month or next.

Being a landlord doesn't appear to be everything one wants in life. Especially with Uncle Sugar being so helpful.

Rams
cliffw FEB 27, 03:04 PM

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Originally posted by cliffw:
For one it wasn't the government per say. It was The Center for Disease Control. They have no regulatory authority. The merely provide guidance.




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Originally posted by blackrams:
I beg to differ.



Differ at your own peril, . Are you up for the test ?


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Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Institute
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is a national public health institute in the United States. It is a United States federal agency, under the Department of Health and Human Services, and is headquartered in Atlanta, Georgia.



The Department of Health and Human Services do write regulatory "rules". Which are actually "laws". Which should not be permitted. Congress writes laws and possibly passes them.


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As the nation’s public health protection agency, CDC has certain authorities to implement regulations related to protecting America from health and safety threats, both foreign and within the United States, and increasing public health security. CDC and other agencies implement public health laws passed by Congress through Federal Regulations.



Laws passed by regulation ? They were not passed. They were dictated, .


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CDC’s role in rules and regulations
As the nation’s public health protection agency, CDC has certain authorities to implement regulations related to protecting America from health and safety threats, both foreign and within the United States, and increasing public health security.



How come the CDC did not dictate mask, two mask mandates ? Who issued business shut downs ?


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CDC and other agencies implement public health laws passed by Congress through Federal Regulations. After a Congressional bill becomes law, federal agencies may be responsible for putting the law into action through the development of regulations—also known as “rules.” Federal regulations give the public details or specific requirements of how the law will be applied. The process of creating regulations or rules is called rule making.



Does that sound familiar ? Blackrams, you are old enough to should have learned history, back when schools used to teach it. The Kind of England used to dictate law and installed many regulatory Czars in the Colonies that made regulations/rules. That didn't work out to well for the English Empire.


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What are CDC’s regulatory authorities?
Click on each public health program in the boxes below for information on CDC’s regulatory authorities. You can also find the official text of CDC regulations published in the Code of Federal Regulations under Title 42—Public HealthExternal.



I will look into this.


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This was CDC's ruling supported by the President. I don't see how this could be any more government.
But, just because the CDC has regulatory jurisdiction on some aspects, doesn't mean they can stop evictions. Just my (and the Judge's) opinion.
The CDC overreached their authority (at least as it currently stands).

Rams



I still maintain that the CDC can not pass rules and regulations.

I will look into CDC regulations published in the Code of Federal Regulations under Title 42—Public HealthExternal.

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blackrams FEB 27, 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by cliffw:

I will look into CDC regulations published in the Code of Federal Regulations under Title 42—Public HealthExternal.




Do as you wish. Believe what you want, don't really care.
Was told once that you don't know what, you don't know.
Slow down before you miss a curve in the road and hurt yourself.
You can feel however you wish but, that doesn't make you right.
BTW, what's your point, the CDC isn't government?

Rams

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williegoat FEB 27, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by cliffw:

I still maintain that the CDC can not pass rules and regulations.

I will look into CDC regulations published in the Code of Federal Regulations under Title 42—Public HealthExternal.



https://www.cdc.gov/regulat...gulations/index.html

I have spoken out here on this forum against federal regulatory over reach many times.

Having dealt with the FMCSA over the years, it is one of my pet peeves. I think Blackrams has the same kind of experience with OSHA.
blackrams FEB 27, 04:13 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

https://www.cdc.gov/regulat...gulations/index.html

I have spoken out here on this forum against federal regulatory over reach many times.

Having dealt with the FMCSA over the years, it is one of my pet peeves. I think Blackrams has the same kind of experience with OSHA.



Over reach is a problem with every government agency, I think some of it is for self preservation, we have to make ourselves important.
Ever seen a list of all the state agencies in CA? It's unbelievable.
This is just the Executive Branch: 231 agencies.

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Rams

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Wichita FEB 27, 05:53 PM
As one should expect that there is very much rampant lies and fraud surrounding this eviction moratorium.

I know landlords who haven't received anything from their tenants since the pandemic, yet these tenants still go out and party and live very much normal lives.

They used the pandemic eviction moratorium. Yes there is paperwork the tenants need to fill out, but they just lie on it. These are your typical democrat constituents and Biden voters. People that don't put grocery carts in the corrals. Just pathetic people who brag about the "unemployment life" with their $400-$600 extra a week sipping on margaritas at On The Border while tipping their servers nothing.

The state of Kansas, mind you a very small population in this state, had a legislative audit that $600 million dollars.... THAT IS $600 MILLION, was paid out in fraudulent unemployment payments to over 50,000 people since COVID. They have since turned this list over to the FBI, but I doubt they will do anything.
Then there is the true victim. Those that are truly unemployed and need their unemployment only to find out that someone else has already used their name and ss# to process their unemployment and these are the same people who are probably getting evicted too, as they are too proud to squat on someone's property.

blackrams FEB 27, 06:46 PM

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Originally posted by Wichita:

As one should expect that there is very much rampant lies and fraud surrounding this eviction moratorium.

I know landlords who haven't received anything from their tenants since the pandemic, yet these tenants still go out and party and live very much normal lives.

They used the pandemic eviction moratorium. Yes there is paperwork the tenants need to fill out, but they just lie on it. These are your typical democrat constituents and Biden voters. People that don't put grocery carts in the corrals. Just pathetic people who brag about the "unemployment life" with their $400-$600 extra a week sipping on margaritas at On The Border while tipping their servers nothing.

The state of Kansas, mind you a very small population in this state, had a legislative audit that $600 million dollars.... THAT IS $600 MILLION, was paid out in fraudulent unemployment payments to over 50,000 people since COVID. They have since turned this list over to the FBI, but I doubt they will do anything.
Then there is the true victim. Those that are truly unemployed and need their unemployment only to find out that someone else has already used their name and ss# to process their unemployment and these are the same people who are probably getting evicted too, as they are too proud to squat on someone's property.



Ironically, a life long best friend has received multiple letters from his state telling him to apply for his COVID Un-Employment. He keeps calling them and telling them he's not out of a job. Just spoke with him this weekend, said he had received his third letter and wasn't calling them again. He's not filed for that check either.

Rams
cliffw FEB 27, 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by blackrams:
Was told once that you don't know what you don't know.



They told me that about you too, . Kidding.


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Originally posted by blackrams:
You can feel however you wish but, that doesn't make you right.



I read your "regulation" and it appears that I am wrong. Although, ... I can not think of any CDC regulation. Not that I can think of any of the 3,000+ pages of the Unaffordable Care Act that the alphabet HHC Services minions wrote.


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Originally posted by blackrams:
BTW, what's your point, the CDC isn't government?



I truly thought it was a not partisan entity.
Rams

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blackrams FEB 27, 09:13 PM

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Originally posted by cliffw:
I read your "regulation" and it appears that I am wrong. Although, ... I can not think of any CDC regulation. Not that I can think of any of the 3,000+ pages of the Unaffordable Care Act that the alphabet HHC Services minions wrote.




Whoa there Big Fellla................... First, it's not my regulation. If it was, it'd be one hell of a lot less.

Just about everything from OHSA to CDC is covered and authorized by the Federal Code of Regulations. Congress pretty much authorizes it's agencies a free hand until the public raises a stink.

Rams

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