First, Bruce gets loose, now the tribe's a gibe: another Jeep shot... (Page 2/3)
randye FEB 23, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by williegoat:

I guess somebody got a bee in their war bonnet.




More likely someone didn't get heap big wampum "licensing fee" from Fiat Chrysler Corporation for use of the "Cherokee" name.

Let's Hopi they don't try to Sioux someone....

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sourmash FEB 23, 05:27 PM
They should call it the TONTO.
Monkeyman FEB 23, 07:12 PM
Something's always bound to offend somebody. How 'bout this? Ford Car One, Ford Car Two, Ford Truck One, Ford SUV One, Ford Smaller SUV One, etc. Chevy, Dodge, Kia, etc can use the same naming pattern although at some point someone will get offended by Ford (wasn't he the coward that shot someone back in the wild west?). RAM will have to go, too. Too violent. Kia stands for Killed In Action. Soldiers will have an issue with that. No more Subaru, either. SubaRU? ROO? Kangaroo??? Do you know what those crazy people down under have done to kangaroos??? Stellantis will be no more. Sounds like stiletto. I had an ex wife who wore stilettos and I didn't get along with her. Now, I'm offended by that connotation. Should I go on?
rinselberg FEB 23, 08:28 PM

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Originally posted by Monkeyman:
Something's always bound to offend somebody. How 'bout this? Ford Car One, Ford Car Two, Ford Truck One, Ford SUV One, Ford Smaller SUV One, etc. Chevy, Dodge, Kia, etc can use the same naming pattern although at some point someone will get offended by Ford (wasn't he the coward that shot someone back in the wild west?). RAM will have to go, too. Too violent. Kia stands for Killed In Action. Soldiers will have an issue with that. No more Subaru, either. SubaRU? ROO? Kangaroo??? Do you know what those crazy people down under have done to kangaroos??? Stellantis will be no more. Sounds like stiletto. I had an ex wife who wore stilettos and I didn't get along with her. Now, I'm offended by that connotation. Should I go on?


Ford, RAM, Kia, Subaru, Stellantis.

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The message from Monkeyman is Mostly False. It's a "strawman" kind of argument or reaction that does not line up with the facts of the case. Whether or not there are any good reasons for the Jeep Division of Stellantis to think about rethinking their use of 'Cherokee" as a road vehicle name remains an open question. While the underlying sentiment and direction of the Monkeyman message could be well founded, the presentation is not.



I've done my homework. I trust rinselberg. I think you can too.

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williegoat FEB 23, 08:50 PM
Just wait until they hear about Piper... They're going to go on the warpath. Maybe they can use Apache helicopters and Tomahawk missiles. Or, maybe not.
Wichita FEB 24, 05:45 PM
Just waiting for the Woke Police to ban "white" color paint for vehicles, because it represents oppression.

cliffw FEB 24, 05:52 PM
If the word Cherokee is such an offensive name, ... why did they name themselves Cherokees ?

The Grand Cherokee, front line model, ... is that extra offensive. Would they still be offende if it was rebadged as the "Indian". Are they ashamed of themselves ?

Stupidity has no bounds.
williegoat FEB 24, 06:01 PM

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Originally posted by cliffw:

If the word Cherokee is such an offensive name, ... why did they name themselves Cherokees ?

The Grand Cherokee, front line model, ... is that extra offensive. Would they still be offende if it was rebadged as the "Indian". Are they ashamed of themselves ?

Stupidity has no bounds.


Yeah, there is still the Indian motorcycle and Piper Cherokee, Pawnee and Apache. It just goes to show that it is not about the name or being offended. It is a just a way to cause trouble. Nothing more than a temper tantrum. Somebody wants something. And it might not be the tribe that stirred the pot. It could have been that an outside agitator put a bug in their ear, for his own nefarious reasons.

I don't think the Cherokees named themselves Cherokee. That name seems to come from another tribe. They have a different name for themselves.

There is an indigenous group here that had been called Papago for centuries. One day a few decades ago, they realized that that name was given to them by Spanish missionaries and means "Bean Eater", so now they are called by their own name for themselves, the Tohono O’odham, which means people of the desert. Now, that change makes a lot of sense. There are still a lot of things around here that have kept the name Papago, it doesn't seem to be a big deal.

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randye FEB 25, 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by williegoat:


There is an indigenous group here that had been called Papago for centuries. One day a few decades ago, they realized that that name was given to them by Spanish missionaries and means "Bean Eater", so now they are called by their own name for themselves, the Tohono O’odham, which means people of the desert.



So they are actually the comedores de frijol Tohono O’odham....
htexans1 FEB 26, 10:55 AM
Uh hum...

If you're having problems Down there see your doctor about stellantis