Have Any Of You Taken The Kung Flu Vaccine ? ... (Page 2/7)
blackrams JAN 29, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

I just saw where you can already be looking forward to a third injection, sometime down the road, for the South African variant.

That's from Peter Hotez.



Anyone who doesn't expect additional vaccinations in the future is living in a dream world.
While not suggesting this virus is like the flu, it is like the flu in that it mutates.

Every year, science guesses as to what flu bug to develop a vaccine to fight. Flu Bugs mutate and the COVID virus has already proven to do the same thing.
I fully expect the world population will need booster vaccines well into the future, if not forever.
I've already volunteered for the Maderna booster when they are ready to test it.

Rams
rinselberg JAN 29, 11:52 AM
Fair enough.

Not too long ago, I was reading about some research towards an anti-viral vaccination that would be so advanced that it would provide lifetime or very long persisting immunity, even as the various viruses continue to mutate in various ways.

But I'm not expecting the announcement any time soon.
cliffw JAN 29, 11:46 PM
Have y'all heard of the new latest greatest Kung Flu test. It's all the rage in China.

Instead of poking a swab through your nose to your brain, they shove a bigger one up your butt and rotate it.

I will die first.

Google it.
rinselberg JAN 30, 01:28 AM
It will never catch on here in the United States.

We're already too far behind.
Hudini JAN 30, 04:13 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:

It will never catch on here in the United States.

We're already too far behind.



There are plenty of folks in San Fran who would love something shoved up their tailpipe. No shortage of volunteers there.
cliffw JAN 30, 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by rinselberg:
We're already too far behind.



Behind, . I see what you did there. Will you bend over ?
rinselberg JAN 30, 12:38 PM
I'm not getting in line to volunteer, but I think this azz-probe may not be any more physically uncomfortable than the nasal swabs that they first came out with.

What if someone is already in need of a rectal examination of some kind--maybe involving a catheter--and it's considered urgent enough that it should not be delayed by testing for Covid first and only "going in" after a negative Covid test result has been confirmed? Or maybe it's something that's so urgent that it has to be done right away, even if the patient might have Covid.

Just trying to analyze this from every conceivable angle.

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maryjane JAN 30, 01:17 PM
Sounds more like it is being .............analized.


No vaccine is 100% effective or absolutely failsafe in efficacy in regards to preventing acquisition or infection of the disease.
Many people getting the flu vaccine still get the flu, some people who got measles vaccination still got measles. Most however help a great deal, especially in preventing extremely severe cases and death.

Polio vaccines come very close, but even those will still see a few cases.

Anyone that thinks "Oh, I got the vaccine, now I don't have to worry" is living in a make believe world, as no one has ever promised vaccinaion against Covid to be the end all/be all finish & panecea of Covid.

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Monkeyman JAN 30, 03:44 PM
My group is next (over 65 and/or with any of the 8 or 9 health issues...I'm diabetic and obese) but I don't expect to get stabbed for another month or so. By that time the Johnson & Johnson single dose vaccine should be available. Most rural areas (like mine) tend to get the Moderna version since it can be kept in the fridge instead of a special (and very expensive) deep freeze. My folks live in an even more rural area and that's what they got. Since the J&J version has the same temp requirements, I'm guessing I'll get either the Moderna or J&J. Doesn't matter to me.

As far as booster shots, it's the same as the annual flu shots as someone already mentioned. CV and the flu mutate constantly so you need to get the latest booster to try to keep you healthy. I'm guessing by next fall (when flu shots are normally done), they'll combine both flu and CV into a single shot. Since I get a flu shot every year, I'll get both. Seems like a win-win to me.

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Hudini JAN 30, 06:12 PM

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Originally posted by maryjane:

Sounds more like it is being .............analized.


No vaccine is 100% effective or absolutely failsafe in efficacy in regards to preventing acquisition or infection of the disease.
Many people getting the flu vaccine still get the flu, some people who got measles vaccination still got measles. Most however help a great deal, especially in preventing extremely severe cases and death.

Polio vaccines come very close, but even those will still see a few cases.

Anyone that thinks "Oh, I got the vaccine, now I don't have to worry" is living in a make believe world, as no one has ever promised vaccinaion against Covid to be the end all/be all finish & panecea of Covid.




The Brazilians who tested the Chinese vaccine said it was 50% effective at prevention. They also said it was 100% effective at preventing hospitalizations. Since the goal is "flatten the curve" then this would seem to be a win. If the Moderna, Pfizer, and now J&J do even better then it's a definite win.

This virus sucks but may teach us how to combat future versions quickly. Especially if I can get a combo flu/covid shot each year.