Stimulus Check - Do you NEED yours? Should it go to someone who does? (Page 2/5)
randye DEC 25, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by Zeb:

So, why is the government giving me (my) money I don't need when they could be giving it to someone who does?




Since you obviously realize that the gooberment is simply "giving" you your own money back, and unless you somehow believe in that same gooberment's sudden magic ability to determine who needs your money more than you, (surprise! they can't), I'd say the best course of action is for you to accept your "refund" and then YOU DECIDE who you believe needs it most.

One way or another, it's being "given away" by congress critters in hopes that folks will feel grateful to the same gooberment that made so many of them need it so badly.......Hooray Marxism / Socialism......

As for me, I will do what I did last time with the $1, 200

I'm going to add it to my annual property tax payment.
That way it both benefits me personally and I give it back to the (local) gooberment.....Win-Win

(The wife blew her stimulus on "stimulating" her feet....she bought shoes....)

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By the way, one of the nicest things I have heard this Christmas season was how a man here in Florida anonymously paid the overdue electric bills for a few families and also paid them all one month ahead.

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Blacktree DEC 25, 01:48 AM

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Originally posted by Zeb:
I only see three answer categories:

A] YES someone who needs it can have mine

B] NOT SURE, things are bad around here, and I'm not sure if it'll get worse before it gets better.

C] NO, I'm the guy who desperately needs it. I'm hurting big time. {I hope nobody needs to choose "C"}


D] The whole freaking thing is a sham.
Raydar DEC 25, 12:17 PM

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Originally posted by Patrick:



What is it that made that long drive every working day worthwhile? Nothing suitable price-wise in the housing market closer to the job site?



We actually used to live closer. MUCH closer. My commute was 28 miles, each way.
Last March, we sold our house and moved out to the sticks, to my wife's old "home place". We decided that the commute would be worth it, since we would have a bunch of land, and a bunch of privacy. And I was going to retire in two years. (Now less than 16 months.) Figured that I could deal with the commute, for two years.

Strange how it worked out. Our actual "moving days" were on (I believe) the last Thursday and Friday of March. I scheduled vacation for those days.
The last Wednesday before my vacation, they told us, "Due to the virus, going forward, we will be working remotely. This, until further notice."
A few months in, we were (obviously) still working remotely, and management was pleased with how we were doing our jobs, so they told us that we could consider it a "permanent situation". (They are also going to save a sh!t ton on floor space rental, but I'm certain that that has nothing to do with it. )
Since March, I have only ever made the trip downtown maybe 2-3 times (due to potential network issues.)
So, I am actually saving a small fortune, sort of at the expense of those who.... are not. (Well, not really. But you understand where I'm coming from.)

If we (wife and I) can help someone else to stay afloat, then we will.

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Patrick DEC 25, 04:25 PM

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Originally posted by Raydar:

Last March, we sold our house and moved out to the sticks, to my wife's old "home place". We decided that the commute would be worth it, since we would have a bunch of land, and a bunch of privacy. And I was going to retire in two years. (Now less than 16 months.) Figured that I could deal with the commute, for two years.



Okay, that does make it a lot more understandable.


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Originally posted by Raydar:

Since March, I have only ever made the trip downtown maybe 2-3 times (due to potential network issues.)
So, I am actually saving a small fortune...




It's worked out very well for you!
theBDub DEC 25, 05:29 PM
We didn’t get the first, and won’t get the second, but I have to think all that **** they threw in the bill is worth more than a $600 buy off.

If we did get one, I’d probably increase my budget on my new projector for my media room by half the amount then donate the rest. At least I’d get to choose where it went.
hnthomps DEC 26, 06:29 AM
Choice A for me but I would want to decide for myself where/who the money went to. Nancy and I try to do a significant amount of charitable work and the stimulus check could help out (if we did not have the issue of adding to the federal debt) in this effort. Paying me a few dollars now and having my children/grandchildren pay off the initial debit plus interest does not personally make sense to me wrt personal need.

Now I personally want/need another Mera, but I do not think it is worth going into debt as a country to purchase it using taxpayer's money. Setting aside a specific sum of money to be issued on a true "need" basis would work but then the government would eat up a significant portion of that with administrative/program expenses. Giving the money to a charitable group with a demonstrated history of effectively utilizing the resources to help needful people might be a better solution that a blind check to people who may or may not really need it.

Nelson
sourmash DEC 26, 10:45 AM
Practical and judicious is contrary to the intended outcome. fedgov is rotting out the core of the middle class power structure so they can forever change America to make it more like Canada then Europe.
Blacktree DEC 26, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by theBDub: ...but I have to think all that **** they threw in the bill is worth more than a $600 buy off.


Call me jaded, but IMO the $600 "stimulus" payment is just a distraction. The bill is over 5500 pages long! How many of those pages does the "stimulus" payment take up? And what's on the rest of those pages?

I'm not sure how accurate this is, but I was told the tax burden of the "stimulus" bill will be around $2700 per person. And they're giving us back $600 per person. So where is the other $2100 going?


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Originally posted by Jake_Dragon: Who gets to decide? Stimulus, its a funny word, seems like they are stimulating the wrong thing.


Apparently, gender studies in Pakistan needs to be stimulated.

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rinselberg DEC 26, 01:57 PM
Universal Basic Income.

Makes more sense with each passing day. As the realties that actually emerge seem to make less sense with each passing day.

Relativity.
sourmash DEC 26, 03:36 PM
You're describing the Soviet system, it sounds. During their meltdown it was frequently described by participants as, We pretend to work and the govt pretends to pay us. Then they went to stand in bread lines.